SVS Ultra 13 pre-order starts!

**mike c** · **05-02-07, 07:50 PM**

Box Ultra:
http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm
Cylinder Ultra:
http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-cyl-pcultra_new.cfm

**weeZ** · **05-02-07, 08:04 PM**

Place my dual box order this morning!

**Malice** · **05-03-07, 03:11 AM**

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mike c wrote:

Box Ultra:
http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm
Cylinder Ultra:
http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-cyl-pcultra_new.cfm

Heads up to the SVS guys. There is a typo/spelling mistake I have seen on the PC Ultra page:

750 watt BASH amp with room compenation

I think you may want to correct that!

Bob

**Bob_99** · **05-03-07, 07:01 AM**

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"Stackable" form factor allows easy dual subs

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Weight: 155 pounds

Best have some friends if you plan on stacking these puppies.

Bob

**weeZ** · **05-03-07, 07:07 AM**

I have notified the crew, they can be here in a moments notice

Stacking won't fly (WAF), I'll be putting them end to end.

**Magyar** · **05-03-07, 11:05 AM**

I wonder if the internal size of the cylinder is larger then the box design, and if it is, then it should have some output advatage over the box design.

**jason yeo** · **05-03-07, 11:26 AM**

Already placed order for dual PCU

**Ed Mullen** · **05-03-07, 01:43 PM**

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Magyar wrote:

I wonder if the internal size of the cylinder is larger then the box design, and if it is, then it should have some output advatage over the box design.

The PB13-Ultra has more effective enclosure volume and is tuned slightly deeper. It's a slightly better performer at the very deepest frequencies for these reasons, but subjectively the two subs sound/feel similar on the vast majority of program material.

Of course the cylinder has a big advantage in footprint and weight; in this respect we feel the PC13U is one of our best subwoofers ever when it comes to balancing overall size/weight, footprint, and performance. I'm sure anyone who hears a new PC13U in action will agree - it's a fabulous performer and an obvious improvement/upgrade over the PC12-Ultra it replaces.

**Bill3508** · **05-03-07, 04:23 PM**

Mr. Mullen,

How do you think the PB13 is SQ wise. I think you or Tom may have mentioned something about it before, but I was wondering about your opinion especially when compared to the old Ultra or + models. Especially asking about its applicaiton for music as compared to the other models. This will be my first SVS and I'm still hoping the size will fit. I emailed you about my pre-order size possibly not working. Also, I'm from AVS forum where I can't discuss such things.

Thanks

Bill3508

**khellandros66** · **05-03-07, 05:07 PM**

if only I had $1399+shipping laying around....congrats SVS now this is a sub I will definitely order from you at some point. DIY seemed my only alternative till now.

~Bobby

**Ed Mullen** · **05-03-07, 07:42 PM**

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Bill3508 wrote:

Mr. Mullen,

How do you think the PB13 is SQ wise. I think you or Tom may have mentioned something about it before, but I was wondering about your opinion especially when compared to the old Ultra or + models. Especially asking about its applicaiton for music as compared to the other models. This will be my first SVS and I'm still hoping the size will fit. I emailed you about my pre-order size possibly not working. Also, I'm from AVS forum where I can't discuss such things.

Thanks

Bill3508

The Ultra has definitely reached a new pinnacle in SQ for SVS. These subs sound fantastic - detailed, effortless, accurate, linear, and really clean.
The FR is ruler flat, output linearity is extremely good - especially in the upper bass registers, and the roll-off profiles provide superior transient response and are a better match to available room gain.

A lot of effort went into improving FR and output linearity in the upper bass regions as compared to the previous Ultra design and it's paid off.

**Magyar** · **05-03-07, 08:55 PM**

Hmm, I diidn't think the box would be biger, interesting.
One more question Ed, will you offer a passive version as well of the cylinder version in the future?

**Bill3508** · **05-03-07, 11:45 PM**

Mr. Mullen,

I appreciate the response. I'm going to make every effort to get the PB13 size to work as I know it will be a killer sub. Your comments on the SQ are great as I knew you all had been working on that with these subs.

Thanks

Bill3508

**Ed Mullen** · **05-04-07, 05:46 AM**

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Magyar wrote:

Hmm, I diidn't think the box would be biger, interesting.
One more question Ed, will you offer a passive version as well of the cylinder version in the future?

We are not planning a passive CS13-Ultra cylinder subwoofer.

**Bob_99** · **05-04-07, 06:52 AM**

This has probably already been asked 'ad infinitum' so please forgive me for asking it again but how does a single PB13-Ultra compare to the PB12-Plus/2? I'm sure two would be better but i'm not sure I could explain to the wife why I need two and she's been really good with letting me treat the whole area so I don't want to push my luck too much. I can't decide whether to take the plunge now or wait until the dual driver unit comes out. Room size is 5700 cf.

I just had another thought. How would running the PB12-Plus/2 and PB13-Ultra together be? (Although I still would have to explain why I have two huge boxes to my wife).

Bob

**Ed Mullen** · **05-04-07, 07:08 AM**

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Bob_99 wrote:

This has probably already been asked 'ad infinitum' so please forgive me for asking it again but how does a single PB13-Ultra compare to the PB12-Plus/2? I'm sure two would be better but i'm not sure I could explain to the wife why I need two and she's been really good with letting me treat the whole area. I can't decide whether to take the plunge now or wait until the dual driver unit comes out. Room size is 5700 cf.

Bob

The Plus/2 in its native 25 Hz tune (all ports open) is a shade stronger (on average) than the PB13-Ultra from 25-80 Hz, but obviously will quickly fall behind below 25 Hz.

The Plus/2 in the 20 Hz tune (one port plugged) loses some headroom across the board in exchange for the deeper extension. The Plus/2 (20 Hz tune) and the PB13-Ultra are about equal from 40-80 Hz, and below 40 Hz the PB13-Ultra starts to pull away.

The PB13-Ultra has extraordinary output capability in the 18-40 Hz region for a single driver subwoofer. Credit the combination of the large cabinet, triple 3.5" ports, deep tune point, and of course the new 13.5" woofer.

**lienly** · **05-08-07, 08:48 AM**

the new ultra 13 is 950w

or now downgraded to only 750w

[thou this is still very powerful]?
remember on CES news, it's 950w. but now web only shows 750w.

Jason, how many SVSes will you have after got new PC ultra13?

**Ron Stimpson** · **05-08-07, 09:07 AM**

Lienly,

The amp didn't change. But that 950 watts we first published was a mistake. The 750 watt rating has been what we've publicized even at CES (though the 950 number had already been printed by that point).

We're confident this is one of the most powerful subwoofers in its class, don't let the conservative 750 watt amp rating bother you ;^)

Ron
SVS

**Magyar** · **05-08-07, 12:42 PM**

So when are these supposed to ship?

**Ron Stimpson** · **05-08-07, 01:00 PM**

Magyar,

We hope last few days of July will see the first ones start shipping from our Ohio factory. Still some loose ends in the supply chain being tightened down, but so far things are on track. No charge till yours ships naturally.

If there was a new product line due to be in short supply for a while it'll be the two new Ultra subs I believe.

Of course if you are up in Napa we might make an exception and get yours delivered early (just kidding, but suffice it to say we're always good with keeping "vine/wine country" customers happy ;^)

You buy subs and we buy wine, it works out well 8^)

Ron
SVS

**Bob_99** · **05-08-07, 02:08 PM**

Ron,

Just out of curiousity and if I may ask, how do you start off a new line? Do you assemble several test units to make sure that everything is functioning? And do you put the first batch through any special tests?

I imagine it must be quite an emotional roller coaster ride to get a new product out the door.

Bob

**Magyar** · **05-09-07, 01:55 AM**

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Ron Stimpson wrote:

Magyar,

We hope last few days of July will see the first ones start shipping from our Ohio factory. Still some loose ends in the supply chain being tightened down, but so far things are on track. No charge till yours ships naturally.

If there was a new product line due to be in short supply for a while it'll be the two new Ultra subs I believe.

Of course if you are up in Napa we might make an exception and get yours delivered early (just kidding, but suffice it to say we're always good with keeping "vine/wine country" customers happy ;^)

You buy subs and we buy wine, it works out well 8^)

Ron
SVS

It's a deal.

**jason yeo** · **05-09-07, 04:00 AM**

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