What SVS to get?

**01-25-08, 05:03 PM**

Hello all, I am building my home theater room and want to do it right the first time, within a budget that is. The room in question is 15 x 17. I am running a Pioineer Elite vsx-84txsi, Focal 800v Chorus front/center/rear speakers. Now I need to get a sub and I have heard nothing but good things about SVS. Any hints/tips/suggestions around which model I should go with would be appreciated.

Thanks

**tonyvdb** · **01-25-08, 05:34 PM**

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Nietzsche wrote:

...within a budget that is.

Hi, What is your Budget? Because that ultimately will be the deciding factor here.
If your looking for a good under $1000 sub the PB12-NSD/2 is a great sub.

**Sonnie** · **01-25-08, 06:23 PM**

I second the PB12-NSD/2 if you can't afford one of the 13-Ultras.

**Warpdrv** · **01-25-08, 09:21 PM**

Ultra 13... hands down... for sound quality and power - by the looks of the equipment, if your looking to do it right the first time... thats the one... but you don't have a huge room there, the PB-12plus is a great sub for HT, and will do fine...

Again - First choice Ultra13 is the best of the best for the $$

**chas** · **01-26-08, 09:16 AM**

I believe the PB12-NSD/2 is discontinued and no longer available.

**Sonnie** · **01-26-08, 09:30 AM**

Sho-nuff... they are out and gone... wow!

So much for that idea. I suppose they will be announcing something for it's replacement soon.

**mojomike** · **01-26-08, 09:48 AM**

Go for the 13 and don't look back. It is a great sub.

**01-26-08, 10:45 AM**

Thanks for the tips. Any thoughts on the tubes? How much better or worse are they than the box types? Thanks again for all the tips.

**Jeje2** · **01-26-08, 11:05 AM**

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mojomike wrote:

Go for the 13 and don't look back. It is a great sub.

My PB10-ISD was hijacked yesterday :raped: (I was contacted and asked if I'm willing to sell my sub - got a nice compensation

)

So now I'm whitout a sub

And local reseller just informed that piano balck PB13 is available in Mars, hopefully.

(Other colours could get now, but only piano black will do)

I know PB13 is just

, but how am I to manage min two months whitout any sub waiting for it?

Any ideas? (And it has to be paino black

)

**Warpdrv** · **01-26-08, 01:04 PM**

Go to best buy and buy the best sub they have and take it back within 30days..
and then do that same thing next month..

Ok just kidding, thats just wrong...

**mojomike** · **01-26-08, 01:05 PM**

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Nietzsche wrote:

Thanks for the tips. Any thoughts on the tubes? How much better or worse are they than the box types? Thanks again for all the tips.

Sonically there is not much difference. In the case of the 13, the box has a very slight advantage because of greater volume, but the difference in minimal.

**Warpdrv** · **01-26-08, 01:21 PM**

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Nietzsche wrote:

Thanks for the tips. Any thoughts on the tubes? How much better or worse are they than the box types? Thanks again for all the tips.

http://www.svsound.com/questions-faqs.cfm#cylinderorbox

**01-26-08, 03:14 PM**

Okay, I need a call. I can get a PB12-NSD/2 for $800. I know this is last years model and has been discontinued but I hear it absolutely pounds. THOUGHTS????

**OvalNut** · **01-26-08, 03:33 PM**

It does pound. If that is the one on the SVS B-Stock page right now, then I'd say go for it. In your 15 x 17 room, it will shock you.

Tim

**01-26-08, 03:36 PM**

Looking at purchasing the above sub. For $800 dollars it seems like a deal I can't beat. I realize the sub is not longer made but what am I really gaining for going with something with the same specs which is newer? Price increase....

**01-26-08, 03:47 PM**

Thanks for the advice Tim. I appreciate it. I am just torn between the box and the tube.

**01-26-08, 03:58 PM**

One more question, for the model in question, the BASH amp is 525 watts. Is that enough to properly drive the 2 drivers?

**Warpdrv** · **01-26-08, 04:33 PM**

I wouldn't worry about or question the capabilities of any of the SVS's subs period...

It will shake stuff up... the question I would be asking is what level of sound quality your looking for... There are 3 different levels, NSD, PLUS, and ULTRA... All versions will shake things up pretty well, but it then just becomes the quality of the drivers in the different versions. Each level shows an increased step up in SQ - as well as price to match...

I have 4 of the Plus models... SB-plus PB-Plus and 2 PB-Plus/2's and they all are very capable if not extremely capable products... but someday I will move up to the Ultra's for the absolute top tier in SQ...

**01-26-08, 11:35 PM**

Wow, why so many subs? Care to part with any of them?

**Sonnie** · **01-26-08, 11:49 PM**

I would jump on that deal before someone else does. That sub rocks!

**01-27-08, 01:46 PM**

Is the 525 Watt bash amp enough to drive the sub? Also, I have heard some rumors that the drivers in the NSD range subs were not as good. What do you think?

**chas** · **01-27-08, 02:33 PM**

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Is the 525 Watt bash amp enough to drive the sub?

Are you referring to the PB12-NSD/2? I thought it had a 600 watt amp.

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Also, I have heard some rumors that the drivers in the NSD range subs were not as good. What do you think?

Not as good as what?

**Warpdrv** · **01-27-08, 02:41 PM**

0 in B-Stock now... someone snatched it up... for a good price too... $749.00 for a PB12-NSD/2

**01-27-08, 03:17 PM**

Sorry for the typo before, the PB12 has a 600 watt amp and I will see how it sounds soon enough. I am the one who snatched it up. From what I can tell from numerous posts, $749 is steal. Thanks for all of the feedback everyone.

**Warpdrv** · **01-27-08, 04:11 PM**

Well that should certainly shake things up in your life.... Congrats, and welcome to the party !!!

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Wow, why so many subs? Care to part with any of them?

I have 3 different setups... Dual Plus/2's in my big HT, single Plus in my bedroom, and the small Sealed sb12 plus in my sons room for 2 channel...

As for now, they are all keepers..

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