Bi-Wiring Speakers

[eaglerider94]

I've read that Bi Wiring results in better sound. That being said, since I've already run speaker wire thru my wall can I simply split the wires from the speaker junction terminal on the wall (speaker plate) or do I have to run an second cable from the amp? I have Monitor Audios which are capable of Bi-Wiring.

[brucek]

do I have to run an second cable from the amp?

Yes, you would need to run a second set of cables from the amp.

brucek

[nova]

Yes, as Bruce said, you'll need a second cable.

"I've read that Bi Wiring results in better sound"

That statement is definitely debatable.

[Candoo]

I have been told that because of my bieng visually impaired that my hearing is better in some ways to compensate. here is my experiences reguarding bi-wireing usieng a pair of Polk Audio Monitor 60's

now i fullly recognize and understand that the Polk monitor 60's don't stand out in their catagory as strong heart stopping sound. and for them biwireing is more a gimick than a feature. but let me say this.

during my tests and calabration i have found that biwireing can add too the definiiton and clearity of the sound and too the fullness and richness.
the audio having two seperate direcitons to reach seperate ends allows for seperation and a fuller more sperated sound between speaker sections that are seperated by the biwire method.

ok that said. my test went as fallows

1. I disconnected one speaker and connnected it with a single pair of wires. and left the other biwired.

2. i listened too a track that had suble timbres and sudden deep base sounds.

3. i reversed the speakers making the opsite one biwired and the other stright single paired.

while the MOnitor 60's don't show much difference between the two. i can say that there was some very suble differences.

can this be atttributed to speaker placement or room shape. who knows.
but at the cost of a few extra bux for some wire. why not just do the slightly more work involved task of biwireing them. than you can experience for yourself.

thank you for readirgn my reply. and i really am enjoying this forum

[Jeff Aguilar]

When my system comprised of Energy Veritas, I tried bi-wiring them and eventually bi-amped them. To me, in my system, in my mind, there was a difference, a definite difference. I then moved to Martin Logan's and bi-amped them. I could definitely tell a difference between bi-amping them and not bi-amping them. I eventually ended up getting tube amps and did not bi-amp them. (I tried, but trying to mix tubes and solid state biamping, just didn't work for me, with the equipment I had).

For demanding speakers, I think it is benificial to biamping speakers. But that is just my opinion. This is such a touchy subject to people, it usually starts flame wars.

Jeff Aguilar

[eaglerider94]

Thanks Tim & Jeff. I guess I'll just have to wire them up and test for myself. Since I already ran the wires thru the wall I thought I could just split them from the speaker receptacles but was informed that I need to run separate wires from the amp, ugh.

[tonyvdb]

Bi Wireing speakers is not going to improve sound unless you do it properly. This means running two dedicated amps (or amp channels) for each speaker and alot of time spent making sure levels are correct as this gives you the ability to increase/decrease the level to the highs/lows without affecting the the other (this is where most people hear a difference). Running two separate sets of speaker cables but attaching them to the same terminals on the amp wont make any difference unless your speaker wire gauge is too small to begin with. Increasing the gauge of the wire would be far more beneficial.
If you do bi-amp your speakers, make sure the lengths of wire are the same and that the same kind of wire is used for both.

[tcarcio]

Bi-wireing and bi-amping are two different things completly. I have done both. Bi-wireing I found no difference, Bi-amping on the other hand it was definitly better.

[eaglerider94]

Well Tony,
That makes sense. Perhaps I'll just forget about Bi-wiring for now and concentrate on buying a much needed sub. I've emailed Ron over at SVS and received his suggestion on which one for my room size. (20Lx15.5Wx8H) I'd really love to buy their New SB12-Plus but due to a sudden set of circumstances, (this economy is no picnic) I'll have to settle for their older SB-12 Plus.

[Candoo]

well. i'll be honest while my Polk Monitor 60's support biamping or biwireing

I see it more as a gimik than a functianl improvement for these speakers
now perhaps for higher end speakers it would offer more noticeable differnces.

I have a Sony DGS910 reciever and can't see forking out another $400 to buy another one just to bi amp the speakers.

the reciever i use the dgs910 as speaker sets for A and B so biwireing done'st connect too the same terminals unless it's the same terminals internally.