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post #1 of 18 Old 12-23-09, 12:58 AM Thread Starter
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PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

Hi, I have come by two Pyle 1600W Peak / 800W RMS Pro Audio DJ speakers (Don't worry, I didn't pay for them...), and was wondering if there was any way I could run them off of my Yamaha HTR-5280. (500w, 5.1) The back of the Pyle's have two 1/4 and two speakon jacks, and I read somewhere that a speakon cable is basically a black and white (red) inside, and it is possible to cut the speakon and plug in the black/red bare wire to the receiver, or do the same with the 1/4. I am confused because some PA speakers have bare wire spring jacks and some don't, which leads me to believe they are powered the same way as home theater speakers. I have looked all over the internet but cannot find a specific answer... is it possible (if so, how), to use my PA speakers (dual 1/4 & speakon) with my Yamaha HT receiver? Thanks.
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Re: PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

First welcome to the Shack IOP, I run Pa speakers for my mains and they will work with your reciever but you really need more power to get them to perform to their ability. I run seperate pro amps and just use my reciever as a pre-amp. You can get cable that will go from rca to 1/4 trs at www.monoprice.com so you can hook them up directly to your reciever without having to cut wire. Hope that helps.....
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Re: PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

Thanks for the reply. I have seen mention of preamps where ever I go, but still do not understand how they work. From what I understand, if you use a separate amp (or two) with the PA speakers, the receiver still controls the sound levels, but the amp actually powers the speakers? Also, you said to use a 1/4 to RCA for the speakers, this may be a stupid question, but is RCA the same as bare speaker wire? If not, would I not be plugging the PA speakers into the normal speaker terminals? Thanks.
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Re: PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

Your reciever has what is called pre-outs you can use those to connect an outside amp. You just go from the pre-outs to the amp and then to the speakers. This is an RCA to 1/4 trs cable that you could use.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Ph...7/N/4294544136

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Re: PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

Okay, so now I understand how to hook it up using addition amp(s). If I wanted to go straight from the receiver to the speakers, how would that be done? Sorry, I'm kind of new to this stuff
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Re: PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

You can buy solder on speakon connectors so you can just attach regular speaker wire to them and power the speakers off the receivers built in amps however I would not push it very hard as the Pyles require a fair bit more power than your receiver can produce and will overload it if pushed hard.

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Re: PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

I have had to retype this like 3 times because the website keeps redirecting me and not saving the draft, so I will make this short and sweet. I have a very tight budget, I do not know if this is a typo, but it says this Pyle amp does x2 70w 8Ohms and x2 100w 4Ohms while it being marketed as a "2200W amp". Since it does two channels 70W, would I be better off using my receiver (x5 100W)? My receiver is a Yamah HTR-5280 and the amp is a PYLE PZR6XA. Thanks.
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I would use your reciever before anything made by Pyle, in my opinion they are junk. If you could spend a bit more then this would be much better than that Pyle of junk....http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BEHRINGER-EP...item518bd1517b
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Re: PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

Okay thanks, I just have a few more questions. Why are car subwoofer amps so much cheaper than the amps used for PA speakers? Are they built to handle lower frequencies or something, or would a car amp work with the Pyle speakers? Also, to connect the speakers straight to the receiver, I'm not really sure if these would do the job, but I couldn't find any other "solder on speakon connectors".

I found these cables, and think these would work but if there's a simple adapter I can buy I'd rather not have to buy two of these.
-amazon.com/Gauge-Professional-Speaker-Speakon-Banana/dp/B000V1RLLE/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1261941728&sr=1-14

These are the adapters that I don't know will work.
-amazon.com/Hosa-NL2FC-Speakon-Plug-Bulk/dp/B0029OSNRM/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1261941818&sr=1-7
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Sorry, not letting me post links again so I remove the beginning of the links. :/
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Re: PA Speakers with Home Theater Receiver?

You need to go to the post padding thread and post a few times and then you can add links. I can't answer about car amps as I don't use them but I know they don't go lower in fq so it might have something to do with how they are powered. AC vs DC.
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