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Old 04-28-07, 08:42 PM   #2 (Link)
 
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My Rig

Instruments
*Allen Breaux Boogie Man custom hand-made 4-string.
*Schecter Stiletto Studio 5-string.

Equipment Rack
* Furman PL-Tuner power director/tuner (modified for rear signal input).
* Ashly BP-41 pre amp.
* dbx 160X compressor.
* Ashly PQ-16 6-band parametric equalizer (for house send).
* Yamaha GQ-2015B 15-band equalizer (for stage send).
* Carvin DCM-150 stereo amplifier, 75 watts per channel.

Speakers
* JBL MR-series stage monitors (one for me, one for drummer).
* Old Peavy 2-15 cabinet (for gigs where there are no subs in the house system).

Accessories
* König & Meyer A-frame stands (including an ultra-rare red one).
* Ken Smith Rockmaster medium strings.
* Custom-made cables with Canare 4E6S cable and Switchcraft 90-degree plugs.

See my review:
Schecter Studio 5-String Takes on a Hand-Made Custom


See text below the pictures:
  • Why a rig like this?
  • The why and wherefore on the gear chosen
  • The basses


Bass Rack Front.jpg
(Carvin amp currently in place where blank panel is)


Bass Rack Rear reduced.jpg


Breaux front.jpgSchecter front.jpg
L-R: Breaux Boogie Man custom and Schecter Diamond Series Studio


Why a rig like this?
Strange bass rig, you might be saying. Well, about ten years ago I was contemplating putting together a high-end rig with full separates, complete with a custom bi-amped cabinet that would hit 30 Hz. For 99% of my playing I’m behind a capable PA system with four two-way cabinets with dual 15s and a pair of high-output 18” folded horn subs, powered by a stack of amps totaling a few thousand watts.

I was long on imagination and short on money back then, which actually worked out pretty well. That’s because it eventually dawned on me that there was no reason to spring for a rig that would play loud and low when I was already getting that for free with the PA system!

With that realization in mind I set about to assemble a stage rig that would compliment rather than compete with the house system.

Since I was relying on the sound system to cover the audience, not the output from my own equipment, the first thing that appeared to be of little use was a traditional hulking bass cabinet. No love lost there. It was always a royal pain getting a firm grip on what was getting out to the crowd with those things. When it sounded great to me where I was standing on stage, it sounded awful when I used a long cable to get out to where the audience was. When I got it sounding good to the house, it was unbearably horrible for me on stage.

However, I did need to hear myself on stage, and so did the drummer. So I got us a pair of good-quality stage monitors. The nice thing about stage monitors is that they let you hear sound the way it was meant to be heard – out in front of you, aimed at your head. Gee, what a concept! That is where the ears are after all, not in your butt or the back of your knees. Do you set up your speakers at home behind your couch? Ever see a singer say “Move that monitor around behind me so I can hear it better?” The resolution and texture from your bass that comes through once the sound from the speaker actually gets to your ears - it’s quite a revelation and pleasure to hear.

There are other advantages to using a good stage monitor instead of a bass cabinet. For one, they use quality compression drivers for the highs, not those cheap, nasty-sounding piezos. Indeed, bass cabinets use a completely different driver compliment than stage monitors and PA systems use. So if they have you patched into the PA system, if you’re using a bass cabinet there’s virtually no chance that you’ll sound to the audience the same way you sound to yourself on stage. Get yourself sounding good through a monitor and you have a much better chance of sounding good to the audience too, as they’ll be hearing pretty close to what you’re hearing.

There are many other technical benefits of using a non-traditional bass rig like this. It allows you to use pro-quality gear, like compressors and maybe a parametric EQ to fine-tune your output to the PA (I’ll go into that immediately below). You aren't limited to cheap stomp boxes, which usually don't have the best electronics.

Bottom line, I’ve never regretted ditching the traditional bass-in-the-butt rig for something more intelligently designed. I still keep a 2-15 cabinet around for the rare times I have a gig where they’re using dinky two-ways on poles, but that’s for the audience. I still bring along the monitor for myself.


The why and wherefore on the gear chosen

Furman PL-Tuner power director/tuner
Naturally, you need power management for any rack. I picked this particular Furman because it had a built-in tuner. There isn’t much to a tuner – you’ve seen how tiny the portable ones are – so it makes no sense to burn a full rack space for one. However, Furman gaffed by not including a rear input jack. You have to plug your guitar into the front input, then run a separate cable from the output to your pre amp's input. What nonsense. Who wants a bunch of cables hanging all over the front of their rack? So I ordered a jack from Furman, mounted it in the back panel and connected it internally to the front-panel input jack with a shielded wire. I use a line output from the pre-amp to feed the jack. Mission accomplished: bass gets tuned, front of rack stays free of extraneous cabling.

Ashly BP-41 bass pre-amp
A really nice pre-amp. Too bad Ashly quit making them a long time ago. E-Bay is your friend! The BP-41 has switchable A/B inputs, so you can plug in two basses and switch between them. They’re actually low-gain / high-gain inputs, so you might have to do some volume adjustments on one of the basses if they both have the same output level, but it’s workable. Like most pre-amps, the BP-41 has a balanced output for a send to the PA. For my stage send I use the high output from the on-board electronic crossover. Why that and not the regular full-range stage send? Because it lets me roll the lowest frequencies out of my monitor. (I can’t do that with the pre-amp tone controls; they’re also going to the house send, so they have to stay flat.) I usually set the crossover to 100-125 Hz or so – in other words, everything below that point is rolled out. That lets the house subs carry the bottom end all alone – no need for both of us to do that.

dbx 160X compressor
A nice thing about a rack is that you can use a real pro-audio compressor instead of those cheap stomp-boxes. This vintage dbx does a great job, and the big LED meter display is way-cool! It’s connected through the pre-amp’s effects loop, so it processes both stage and house sends.




Ashly PQ-16 6-band parametric EQ
Another vintage Ashly piece I eBay'd. It’s fed from the pre-amp’s balanced output, which gives me a dedicated equalizer for my house feed. The typical mixing console will only have a three or four band EQ at best, and typically only one of those affects the bass frequencies. And typically a very general, broad adjustment at that. With a parametric EQ, I have four parametric EQ filters for fine-tuning. If you’ve never used a parametric before, lemme tell ya, they totally rock! You can select any frequency you want to adjust, and make it a wide or ultra-narrow adjustment, or anything in between. Times four, plus a couple of shelving filters if you needed them! You can set a filter so narrow it will equalize a single note! ‘Course you probably won’t want to do that. For my 4-string bass I adjusted the parametric to sound best to the audience. I set up one filter to boost the notes below the bottom “G” (about 40-50 Hz), because I had weak fundamentals down there. I set another filter to take out some “boom” in the 100 Hz range. Another one I set in the 400 Hz range, to help my high notes at the top of the neck cut through the mix. I used the high shelving filter to tone things down a bit when my strings are new. When they’re broken in and not so bright I turn that one off. Just an example of the kind of ultra-fine tuning you can do with a parametric equalizer.

Yamaha GQ-2015B stereo 15-band EQ
This equalizer I use for my stage signal. As mentioned, it’s fed by the pre amp’s crossover’s high output, which is split to feed both channels. That allows me to dedicate a second stage monitor to the drummer, and I can EQ his different if he likes. Pretty poor excuse for an equalizer, really, hope to change it out someday. In the meantime, it does okay for what I need.

Carvin DCM-150 stereo 75-watt amplifier
I know you’re dying here. Seventy-five watts per channel? Yup. With my stage monitor only having to get to my ears, and not fill the whole room with sound, and with the low bass rolled out of them, this little 12-lb. one-space amp is all I need, and it hardly breaks a sweat.

JBL MR-series stage monitors
Hopefully someday I can upgrade these to something smaller. I’ve also used Yamaha monitors and some old Bose speakers (the ones with eight little speakers). I was pleased with these as well.

The rack
As you can see from the pictures above, the back of the rack features a custom termination panel that I made. The Hubbell flanged power inlet has neon indicators above it to show when power and functioning ground are present. The rear convenience outlet is plugged into the Furman, making it “switched.” (I was lucky enough to find a black Decora electrical outlet at Lowes!) Most of the internal signal wiring is DIY, so it’s all cut to length – i.e., no rats nest behind those rear panels. The “House” output is fed from the Ashly parametric EQ. The dual “Stage” sends are fed from the Yamaha stereo equalizer, enabling the use of an outboard amp, or an active speaker. The labeling was created with a Kroy label maker.


The basses
My 4-sting is custom hand-made job, made by a guy who I think lives north of Houston, named Allen Breaux. I got it used from a guy I was installing sound systems with almost 10 years ago, paid only $800 for it - a steal! I've played on high-end basses costing over $4000 in the stores that I haven't liked as much as this one. The tone quality is great, very warm, lots of texture. Pickups are Bartolini soap bars and I use Ken Smith Rockmaster mediums on it. The neck is absolutely perfectly straightnever had a bass with a neck like that before, not even the Steinberger I had with a composite neck. The perfect neck allowed me to get the action ridiculously low. This is the first bass I've ever had where I could set the action even lower than I wanted! And I like it REALLY low.

Any bass player worth his pick-ups will see that the body is patterned after Tobias, and the headstock copies the Warwick Thumb bass. The body is a perfect Tobias copy, actually - I picked up a Tobias hard case on eBay, and it was a perfect fit.

The body is flame maple with wenge sandwiched in between (i.e., the dark strip you can barely see at the lower left-hand of the body). The center "stripe" is bubinga flanked with purpleheart stringers. The neck I'm less clear about - I think the light wood is some kind of maple, the dark some kind of rosewood. The fingerboard is ebony.

The bridge is a Wilkenson, which I really like - easy to set intonation and so forth. Grover tuners, I think. It’s a bolt-on neck, but in spite of that this thing will sustain for days. I've never had a bass that sustained like this one. With a little compression from the dbx 160X I can float a whole note for two full measures of a slow song! I haven't seen even a neck-through that could sustain like this bass does. It probably has something to do with the electronics. Don't know what they are, I guess whatever came with the Barts, but it almost seems like they have some built-in compression of their own. For instance (and this is my one and only complaint with the bass), playing with a pick sounds really "flat." You just don't get the sharp attack that you're used to hearing with most other basses I've had.

I picked up my other bass a couple of years ago just for grins, a Schecter Diamond Series Studio 5-string. These are lower mid-line basses, listing for about $850 and available at e-tailers in the $650 range (I bought mine used for $400 with case). The neck is walnut and maple, the body is mahogany with a bubinga overlay. It doesn't come through very well in the picture, but the satin gold hardware is really sharp looking. Pickups are EMG Hz.

It's amazing what $6-700 can get you in a bass these days. I really didn't have high expectations for a bass this cheap, but I didn't want to drop a few thousand for a high-end model only to find that I hated 5-strings. Overall I'm really impressed, especially for the price - God bless the Koreans. I like it better than the $1200 Steinberger I used to have (late 80's dollars!), and it absolutely blows away the Rickenbacker 4001 I had before that (what do those things cost now, $1800 or more?). If my custom is a 10, this thing is easily an 8. With the satin gold hardware it looks like a million bucks. The sustain is amazingly good, not quite as good as the custom, but certainly gives it a serious run for the money. Way better than the Steinberger or Ric sustained.

I only have a couple of beefs with it, first is the pickups. I really don't like EMGs. The highs sound brittle and sterile, no warmth. Reminds me of the Steinberger (which also had EMGs). I hope to ditch them for some Bartolinis eventually - I've seen on TalkBass that they’ll make the Schecter come alive. The neck isn't as straight as the custom - maybe I can get a first-class luthier to take care of that someday. Adjusting the truss rod only got me so much. Fortunately I was able to get it straight enough to get the action down acceptably low, even if it's not quite a low as the custom.

This is my first 5-string. I had been wanting one for years, holding off mainly for the price/fear factor I mentioned, but it took me a long time to find one with a neck that was comfortable for me. Most were either too fat, or either the strings were too close together. I’ve since played another 5-string that I liked better. It had wider string spacing, which I would really like to have, but the back of the neck was less deep than usual, which made it really easy to get your fingers around it. It was a one-of-a-kind custom I saw at a local guitar shop, but when I returned a few weeks later to put it in layaway, it was gone. So – still looking for that perfect 5-string to match my perfect 4-string.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt


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One word Wayne...... FANTASTIC!!


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Hey, what are you doing in my test thread? Isn’t that kinda like reading other people’s mail?

Just kidding...

Seriously, glad you liked it. I’m using it as my signature link for the Talkbass Forum.

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Well! If you didn't want me to post here, you should have closed the thread

Anyway how do you want me not to post when I see your articles/review/Testing Gear I just can't sorry!! I can't miss this honor!!

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I appreciate the kind words, blaser!

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