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post #11 of 19 Old 08-12-16, 04:47 PM
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Re: Stereo imaging/soundstage question

Well, better than no laser at all, but the distance measurements with a laser distance meter get so much easier and so much more accurate than with a tape.

HOWEVER, you should be able to get pretty good symmetry with that device and that is the main thing.
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This is what i am going to be using... $6.50
Thanks for the tip. Gonna be a hot weekend here, so I picked up a Bosch GLM 30 and some felt. I plan to stay cool in the A/C and get my speakers dialed in. I figured the laser measurement would help me with overall room setup as well.
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Excellent. Be sure to let us know how it goes.
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Re: Stereo imaging/soundstage question

My speaker placement was already within ~1/4 inch left to right in the room, and measured from my forehead to the mid-range driver they were basically perfect (9.997' left vs 10.005' right, thanks Omnimic!). I did need to adjust the front edge of the left speaker by about 1/4 inch for toe-in symmetry. I used couch cushions for additional room treatments.

After that there was no change in the imaging or soundstage.

So I wrapped the speakers in 1" of cotton batting with cutouts for the drivers. Overall clarity improved noticeably, and certain vocals were less "shouty" sounding. Alas, no improvement in imaging/soundstage.

All that's left now is moving some furniture and playing with the toe-in. I'm not optimistic these speakers have it on them...
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Re: Stereo imaging/soundstage question

Well, I casually placed my old speakers on top of my current speakers, and instantly had an improved experience with soundstage in my test tracks.

I may remove the crossover from my newer speakers and use a minidsp to make a digital crossover and time align the drivers.
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Re: Stereo imaging/soundstage question

Sounds like you have the measurement thing down. Some speakers will do it and some won't, there are a lot of factors. DSP and time alignment sounds promising.


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I just ordered the SACD version of this to see how it sounds on my setup.

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Sounds like you have the measurement thing down. Some speakers will do it and some won't, there are a lot of factors. DSP and time alignment sounds promising.
Thanks for all the input, AudiocRaver.

Maybe someone with more time and patience could figure it out with more room treatments and hours of of speaker positioning, but I don't have the heroics for those efforts.

Doing a digital crossover might improve others aspects of their performance at the same time so that's possibly a worthwhile effort.
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I just ordered the SACD version of this to see how it sounds on my setup.
Let us know how it sounds.

My former speakers in a fully treated room felt like the opening of the track was playing right in my ear, like someone whispering in my ear. It was a very odd sensation, and there's no mistaking it if it happens. As I mentioned before, when I would demo that track, unsuspecting listeners would have a strong reaction to the sensation.
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