Mitsubishi DLP XX731, XX732, XX831

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **08-19-06, 01:11 PM**

Looked around and didn't see a thread for the new Mits DLPs so maybe we need to start one. AVS Forum is certainly all abuzz about them.

I've recently been to the daddy's toy store

and seen both the Mits 57731 and 65731 models and by Labor Day the '732' models of the same sets are expected to be in the stores. Well, in some stores anyway. The 732 is the Medallion series which means they probably won't be in places like Circuit City (CC) and Best Buy (BB) etc. However, stores like Tweeter, HH Gregg, Home Theater Store, Bjorn's etc. should have them.

If the 57731 and 65731 are any indication, the upscale 732 series of these sets should be magnificent. So magnificent that I signed an order for a 65732, sight unseen. If that isn't faith I don't know what is.

I can hardly wait. According to my dealer the 732 series Mits should begin showing up late this month (Aug) just in time for the Labor Day weekend.

Anxiously waiting.....
Bill

**MrPorterhouse** · **08-26-06, 08:56 PM**

Sounds good. Here's a link to the 65732. http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/j/i/183...s.html?cid=386

The new Sony SXRD's will run head to head as well. These are some amazing displays here. Quite a leap from where we were a few years ago. Here'a link to the Sony 60" XBR2 http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...tion_55to80TVs

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **08-29-06, 06:54 PM**

I saw the XBR2 running alongside the Mits 65731. The Sony had slightly better blacks but there were some trace fast-motion artifacts in the Sony (a ball being pitched) that were not there in the Mits. I'm told the 732 and 831 Mitsus have a feature called "Dark Detailer" which allegedly boosts their contrast ratio 4X what it is without it. Also the 732 series Mits comes in gloss black stead of the dark silver.

Circuit City (CC) has a "similar" model Mits in a satin black finish but does not have the dark detailer feature. I think it's just a black 731 with a proprietary stock number.

The Mits 831 series has 20% higher wattage lamp (180w) and a new high contrast screen. Those who report seeing the new 65831 at the Line shows claim the silk screen effect (SSE) is completely gone in the 831.

The WD-65831 Mits is $4199 MSRP less whatever deals you can make. The WD-65732 that I have ordered is $3699 again less whatever deals you can make. Looks like right now everyone is offering a flat 10% off across the board.

Unfortunately the 57732 and 65732 and comparable 831 models are not in stock yet, tho the 732's are expected to be in sometime this week. Some stores have the 73732 buy I've been told it still uses the same 3 color wheel as last year's models. If you want the new 6-color system it's only in the 57 and 65 inch models.

**lcaillo** · **08-29-06, 07:46 PM**

I see the Sony SXRDs next to the Mits sets every day and there are things that both do well. Overall, I have to rate them as more similar than different. If I were buying one or the other I would have to go witht he DLP for the simplicity of the light path and the fact that the mits uses osram lamps.

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **08-29-06, 08:23 PM**

What can you tell us about the cost of the 150w and 180w lamps for the Mits 731, 732, 831? Is there any way to "get it wholesale"?

I've also heard it (the lamp) can be a consumer-replaceable item for those so inclined. What's you're opinion?

**lcaillo** · **08-29-06, 10:18 PM**

The lamp for the WD-65731 (150W) part # 915P049010 is $249 retail from Mitsubishi. Dealer cost is $200 so there is little margin in it. Typically the Mits prices have been the best for the lamps. For instance, Optoma used the same lamp as found in earlier model Mits DLPs and are much more expensive than the same lamp from Mitsubishi. The 180W lamp for the 831 is the same price, part #915P049020.

Mitsubishi does not sell parts through distributors but does sell at retail to consumers. Their prices have been very reasonable.

The lamps have been user replaceable and very easy to change. I have not looked at the new sets yet in this respect but I am sure they will remain so. We do service training on them next month.

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **08-30-06, 12:23 PM**

Thanks Leonard!!

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **08-31-06, 09:32 AM**

Another question for you Leonard.

Feature and cosmetic differences between the 65731, 65732 and 65831 notwithstanding, the 65831 (per Mits' preliminary feature list) is touted as having the 180w lamp. Knowing that a lot of Mfr's use the same basic chassis with only software feature and cosmetic differences, the question is can I replace the 150w lamp in the 65732 with a 180w lamp and if so what might be the difference(s) or possible perils of doing so?

**lcaillo** · **08-31-06, 04:57 PM**

A fool's errand...need to know whether there is sufficient cooling, if the color temp will be the same, drive levels, etc. Besides, compared to the CRT set that you are used to you will need to wear sunglasses to watch the 150W lamp at full output.

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **08-31-06, 06:17 PM**

I figured that, but had to ask, albeit possibly premature, since I'm assuming you haven't had your hands inside one yet. I would agree on your statement re singlasses & the 150. In "brilliant" mode it is already too much for the average viewing room. The "bright" setting looks to be the best.

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **09-02-06, 07:14 PM**

Tweeter's delivered my new WD-65732 today.

Hooked up the H20 sat receiver via one of the HDMI inputs using a $16.95 HDMI cable from svideo dot com (yes, $16.95 remember that web site!). Absolutely magnificent PQ.

Of course it came already pre-set in torch mode, but after taming it down it is truly a great unit.

**lcaillo** · **09-02-06, 09:00 PM**

I would consider contacting Jeff Meier at
http://www.accucal.org/
and discuss calibration to get the most out of your set, or at least get to know the adjustments using the available test discs.

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **09-03-06, 10:54 AM**

Way ahead of you.

I have already made a tentative appointment through Jeff for a pro calibration once we get some hours on the lamp. Jeff suggested 40 hrs burn-in time should be sufficient.

Which brings up something else.
Is routine/periodic cleaning needed? We have several fur-bearing pets that do a fair job of clogging the furnace filter long before it would ordinarily need to be replaced. Any special consideration needed for the Mits? - and if so, is this anything that might be in the scope of things an owner could do? Also, any suggestions on thwarting ingress of pet fur, dust, etc?

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **09-15-06, 08:25 PM**

Does anyone happen to have the SM codes for the new Mits sets? - The ones posted over on AVS do not work on the new sets.

Thanks

**lcaillo** · **09-15-06, 08:42 PM**

Option Menu - MENU 2,4,7,0

Service Menu - MENU 2,4,5,7

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **09-16-06, 06:59 AM**

Many thanks Leonard!

**explorerman** · **02-27-07, 06:33 PM**

I know this thread has been quiet for some time but I would to revisit it. I have just recently purchased the Mits WD 65732. While the picture is generally very good the silk screen effect is quite bad at times.

I have followed the calibration tips posted in the Mits tips thread over on AVS but the SSE is still there and seems worse on occasion. Is this a problem that can be solved with a complete ISF calibration or are certain people doomed to always see some SSE (ala rainbow effect on early DLP's). It doesn't really bother my wife or kids but it's one of things that just bugs me.

Any help or information would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Explorerman

**lcaillo** · **02-27-07, 09:06 PM**

Calibration will do little to affect your perception of SSE.

**Cap'n Preshoot** · **02-27-07, 09:11 PM**

Quote:

explorerman wrote:

I know this thread has been quiet for some time but I would to revisit it. I have just recently purchased the Mits WD 65732. While the picture is generally very good the silk screen effect is quite bad at times.

If you see it, you see it. It's an optical illusion. Per the several discussion threads on AVSforum regarding the new Mits DLP sets, SSE and RBE are virtually non-existent unless your brain tricks your eyes into seeing it. For those who see it the only solution is a different technology, i.e. Sony's triple chip rear projection (Grand WEGA) or plasma. Professional calibration may or may not help, by which time you're another $3~400 deep into it. I've never seen RBE or SSE in my 65732. It has been pro-calibrated, but I never saw the aberration before calibration either.

**explorerman** · **02-27-07, 09:20 PM**

Thanks for the info.
I kind of guessed it was along the lines of RBE. If I don't think about it I don't really notice it, but when I do notice it I REALLY notice it. Problem is that now I have seen SSE I am actively looking for it when watching the TV

Ah well, I'll just have to deal with it.

Thanks again,

Explorerman

**explorerman** · **04-27-07, 09:09 AM**

Well after a little over 4 months I am now getting the "air flow" message.
I called the service number for the dealer I bought the set from. They can't come out for 4 days

I'm going to try some of the quick fixes (reset, unplug for 20 mins etc) I have read about to atleast get the TV running over the weekend.

I'll post what the service tech tells me.

Explorerman

**lcaillo** · **04-27-07, 12:01 PM**

It is not uncommon for these sets to need the connector inline with the thermal sensor cleaned and reconnected or the sensor replaced. I also suggest moving the connector as far from the lamp assembly as possible.

**explorerman** · **04-27-07, 04:53 PM**

Quote:

lcaillo wrote:

It is not uncommon for these sets to need the connector inline with the thermal sensor cleaned and reconnected or the sensor replaced. I also suggest moving the connector as far from the lamp assembly as possible.

Leonard,
Thanks for the reply.
Is it possible to do this myself without removing the whole back of the set? I don't mind pulling out the lamp assembly but any further than that is a no go for me.

Explorerman

**lcaillo** · **04-28-07, 04:36 PM**

Not without taking the back off. If it is under warranty let Mits pay to have it done.

**explorerman** · **04-28-07, 11:32 PM**

10-4.
Thanks Leonard. The problem is sporadic right now and the service tech is scheduled for Tuesday.

Thanks again,

Explorerman

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