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post #21 of 52 Old 12-05-15, 03:20 PM
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I am digging Atmos, but not digging at repurchasing "atmos" blurays movies to replace my blus I already got. Talk about getting pinched twice!
I have a felling we will not see a lot of re-releases of Bluray's with Atmos or DTS-X as Bluray sales are low already and UHD bluray just about to come out.

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My fear for auro 3D is that by the time it gets any traction, atmos and DTS-X will be the status quo, and there won't be room for it, and most people won't want to hear about "another" surround sound thingy. Tony, I would think it worth the upgrade, and almost a no brainier if you don't have to move a mountain to do it.
I can't see Auro 3D winning this Battle or even placing 2nd.

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true, I think I would simply mount some good speakers in the ceiling above the seating and whatever format wins the speakers should do the job. I may hold off upgrading the receiver till some time next fall as by then hopefully something more clear will be in place.
As far as I know DTS-X does not put speakers in the ceiling and Auro 3D only has One. Funny how a object based sound process has 3 very different setups.

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Oh lovely, another BETA versus VHS battle? In that one the inferior platform - VHS - won out. Let's hope this one goes our way.
We all know why VHS won? Simply...Disney, for whatever reason said, that's the format we are going with.

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DTS is saying that :X will work with any kind of speaker array... Which is why it should pair nicely with folks using Atmos with ceiling channels. Auro 3D, on the other hand, pretty much has one VOG speaker, but doesn't need to have any (especially for rooms with lower ceilings).

What we really need is DTS to officially hit the market.
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We all know why VHS won? Simply...Disney, for whatever reason said, that's the format we are going with.
Yup totally off topic but...
actually no that's not why, Sony refused to licence and allow other manufacturers to make Bata machines. Once they realized they had to if they wanted to gain market share it was far too late. I owned a few Disney movies that were on Bata tapes. JVC licensed VHS right out of the gate and gained ground fast overtaking Bata.
Bata was a better format because the tape media moved past the drum heads faster so the quality was higher. The tape transport design was also much superior. VHS had a maximum 240 lines of resolution, Bata had 300. The studios used a form of Bata for years that had 525 after it was no longer sold on a consumer level.

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Funny how a object based sound process has 3 very different setups.
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DTS is saying that :X will work with any kind of speaker array... Which is why it should pair nicely with folks using Atmos with ceiling channels. Auro 3D, on the other hand, pretty much has one VOG speaker, but doesn't need to have any (especially for rooms with lower ceilings).
Yes, of course DTS is going to say that.

But the real question is, Why do we need to have any setup config at all??? If this is really object based, all we need to do is tell the AVR where our speakers are and the rest is processed. You should be able to place speakers wherever you want.

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Personally, I plan to wait until the smoke clears and the dust settles. It's possible all these formats will survive in some form, but I'm holding on to my cash until there's significantly more movies encoded with these formats to take the plunge.

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Re: Atmos/ DTS-x, really worth the upgrade?

Looking at the Atmos diagram it seems the "recommended" layout is 4 speakers? I'm trying to understand how the ones located in the ceiling near the screen are beneficial?

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Looking at the Atmos diagram it seems the "recommended" layout is 4 speakers? I'm trying to understand how the ones located in the ceiling near the screen are beneficial?
All of the real setups I have seen are all close to the LP for in-ceiling.

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You have three possible ceiling placements:

Top rear, top middle, top front.

The rear and front positions are placed somewhere around what would be a 45-deg angle from MLP. So, depending on how big your room is, this could be near the screen or quite far from the screen. Top middle is directly over head.
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Agree, lets hope cassette tapes dont make a great comeback like some are saying.
When was the last time you clean the cassette reader head with alcohol? :P
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