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post #51 of 81 Old 06-25-13, 01:48 PM
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What is meant by "reference level"?

I'm really not sure what this term means......I think it must pertain to the volume level. But what is it exactly.
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Re: What is meant by "reference level"?

Here's the thread.
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Re: What is meant by "reference level"?

Oh, thanks......I need to search more.
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Re: What is meant by "reference level"?

Means far louder than most people listen to.
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What level do you usually watch movies at? 85hz seems very loud to me.
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Re: What is meant by "reference level"?

Man - I'm usually watching movies at just under 50hz.

There's been a few times where I've pushed the Denon 4520CI to reference and it's extremely loud for my tastes. I guess if you continue to listen at those levels, you'll start to go deaf and that then becomes the normal listening level.

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Re: What is meant by "reference level"?

I can't wait to get hit on the head after this comment.

The way I take it, is the following:

It's the point at which all speakers come together to produce the same volume of output relative to 0.

Example: if my test tone from the receiver (or if you use a disc as this source) is at 80 (can verify the number by looking at the volume on the display in my case, then I calibrate the individual speaker levels with an SPL meter at 75 say, and then 0 is really 75db, not 80. Then, I find, it's not too loud to be at reference (0).

All you AV pros, please be gentle on this. It was trying to oversimplify and generalize... Please add in any technical points so we can all learn how to get better experiences and enjoyment from our equipment without going overly crazy.
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Re: What is "reference level"?

As an aside...

There is no reference level in 2 channel audio.

The music industry has no real guidelines and this explains the wide volume levels your music is produced at.

In the film industry, the mastering is done at 85db. In the music industry, sometimes they just turn it up to 11.

So, for 2 channel music you will need to keep that volume control handy.

If you play your music through your HT system then all that balancing the system with pink noise will do is assure you that both speakers are the same volume level. Still very useful.
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Re: What is "reference level"?

My reference level is far from 90% of the people on here. it is the actual level of being on the stage with the musicians, or in video, the level it would take to convince a blind man the sound was not coming from speakers but was really happening near him. 99% of all systems fail to deliver this. It is called a "reproduction system" for a reason.

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Re: What is "reference level"?

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My reference level is far from 90% of the people on here. it is the actual level of being on the stage with the musicians, or in video, the level it would take to convince a blind man the sound was not coming from speakers but was really happening near him. 99% of all systems fail to deliver this. It is called a "reproduction system" for a reason.
That is the best explaniation I have heard. It makes total sence to me when you put it that way.
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