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View Poll Results: Ten Biggest Audio Lies: Agree or Disagree (If you disagree, you must explain why!) Votes are public!
I agree with all of them. (If you vote here... do not vote again.) 131 44.26%
I disagree with all of them. (If you vote here... do not vote again.) 11 3.72%
1. The Cable Lie: Agree 106 35.81%
1. The Cable Lie: Disagree 37 12.50%
2. The Vacuum-Tube Lie: Agree 55 18.58%
2. The Vacuum-Tube Lie: Disagree 61 20.61%
3. The Antidigital Lie: Agree 70 23.65%
3. The Antidigital Lie: Disagree 43 14.53%
4. The Listening-Test Lie: Agree 79 26.69%
4. The Listening-Test Lie: Disagree 34 11.49%
5. The Feedback Lie: Agree 72 24.32%
5. The Feedback Lie: Disagree 29 9.80%
6. The Burn-In Lie: Agree 85 28.72%
6. The Burn-In Lie: Disagree 37 12.50%
7. The Biwiring Lie: Agree 78 26.35%
7. The Biwiring Lie: Disagree 34 11.49%
8. The Power Conditioner Lie: Agree 76 25.68%
8. The Power Conditioner Lie: Disagree 41 13.85%
9. The CD Treatment Lie: Agree 94 31.76%
9. The CD Treatment Lie: Disagree 25 8.45%
10: The Golden Ear Lie: Agree 81 27.36%
10: The Golden Ear Lie: Disagree 31 10.47%
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post #101 of 287 Old 09-15-10, 05:34 PM
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How can "THX rated" be a lie or myth?
It's just a label confirming that a piece of equipment meets certain standards.
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How can "THX rated" be a lie or myth.
It's just a label confirming that a piece of equipment meets certain standards.
I think the question is, "What are those standards?" Without knowing what is being measured, how can you determine the worth of it's certification?
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OK, start with my name. As for the Tube lie. I like tubes... granted for sound GENERATION (I play guitar), as far as sound reproduction, amps have come so far in recent years that I am shocked by sound quality. As far as analog - No recordings should be sampled/recorder in digital for the master. I will put an old reel to reel multichannel up against anything digital, and you be the judge of which recording is live.
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I think the question is, "What are those standards?" Without knowing what is being measured, how can you determine the worth of it's certification? Today 7:24 PM
That's exactly right......

Ever heard of the statistician who died in a lake who's average depth was only 2 feet? It could be 100 feet in some sections!

85db certificate - where? in Redskins stadium 500 feet away or in a closet with your ear on the woofer?

PS - I should have added the 1 foot or so db standard that the industry measures things by....anyway...

If it's helpful to the masses...I'm on board!

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THX certification:
There is no mystery as to what standards the equipment should produce with certain THX certification. But yes they do keep it a secret as to their measuring process.
Each level of certification is specific to a certain size room and listening distance from the source. So I don't know how you can say "85db certificate - where? in Redskins stadium 500 feet away or in a closet with your ear on the woofer?."
Either you need to read their website or I'm not understanding your comment.

I'm not a THX fanboy by the way. I don't believe in their set up (i.e. 80hz crossover for all systems), and I don't use any of their DP settings.
But customers who don't know what specs they need for their listening environment can follow the THX certification and know that it's the right size for their needs.
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THX certification:
There is no mystery as to what standards the equipment should produce with certain THX certification. But yes they do keep it a secret as to their measuring process.
Each level of certification is specific to a certain size room and listening distance from the source. So I don't know how you can say "85db certificate - where? in Redskins stadium 500 feet away or in a closet with your ear on the woofer?."
Either you need to read their website or I'm not understanding your comment.

I'm not a THX fanboy by the way. I don't believe in their set up (i.e. 80hz crossover for all systems), and I don't use any of their DP settings.
But customers who don't know what specs they need for their listening environment can follow the THX certification and know that it's the right size for their needs.
Fair enough.

For some years the idea of the 85db constant was a standard for "refrence" level in theater reproduction (on demand). So, for a given space the speaker system HAD to reproduce a minimum of 85db without distortion (whatever that means) on demand and continuous. This standard was set forth by THX - two guys from Berkley. The THX idea is to simply equalize the room influences. All THX testing and equipment, including speakers ran through the HK facility in Norhridge California (JBL) and used JBL equipment for it's standard.

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Any questions?
Huh?
I didn't understand the point to any of that.
Maybe after I get some sleep it'll make sense.
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Every 3rd party reveiw on a THX certified AVR seems to prove that a THX badge has some merit. It doesn't mean it's better than everything else, it just means that it has been tested and holds up to "a" standard.

What is a little bogus is THX rated cables.
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Every 3rd party reveiw on a THX certified AVR seems to prove that a THX badge has some merit. It doesn't mean it's better than everything else, it just means that it has been tested and holds up to "a" standard.

What is a little bogus is THX rated cables.
Yes.
I understood that statement.
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