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View Poll Results: Ten Biggest Audio Lies: Agree or Disagree (If you disagree, you must explain why!) Votes are public!
I agree with all of them. (If you vote here... do not vote again.) 131 44.26%
I disagree with all of them. (If you vote here... do not vote again.) 11 3.72%
1. The Cable Lie: Agree 106 35.81%
1. The Cable Lie: Disagree 37 12.50%
2. The Vacuum-Tube Lie: Agree 55 18.58%
2. The Vacuum-Tube Lie: Disagree 61 20.61%
3. The Antidigital Lie: Agree 70 23.65%
3. The Antidigital Lie: Disagree 43 14.53%
4. The Listening-Test Lie: Agree 79 26.69%
4. The Listening-Test Lie: Disagree 34 11.49%
5. The Feedback Lie: Agree 72 24.32%
5. The Feedback Lie: Disagree 29 9.80%
6. The Burn-In Lie: Agree 85 28.72%
6. The Burn-In Lie: Disagree 37 12.50%
7. The Biwiring Lie: Agree 78 26.35%
7. The Biwiring Lie: Disagree 34 11.49%
8. The Power Conditioner Lie: Agree 76 25.68%
8. The Power Conditioner Lie: Disagree 41 13.85%
9. The CD Treatment Lie: Agree 94 31.76%
9. The CD Treatment Lie: Disagree 25 8.45%
10: The Golden Ear Lie: Agree 81 27.36%
10: The Golden Ear Lie: Disagree 31 10.47%
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post #161 of 287 Old 06-10-13, 11:13 AM
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Re: The Ten Biggest Lies in Audio

i agree'd with all of it except one.the one thing i didnt agree with is burn in.the reason why is from my diy amp building.specifically some t-amps swapping input coupling caps.i have heard some difference after 100 or so hours of use.
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post #162 of 287 Old 07-22-13, 07:57 PM
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Re: The Ten Biggest Lies in Audio

I can't believe people are still talking about this 13 year old article.

Oddly, in that same publication the Audio Critic reviewed a pair of speakers that I designed for AVMS. It was a good review that ended with "definitely recommended".

After all these years that 10 biggest lies story is even funnier now than it was back then. What's sad is how many people went for that stuff. The real lies are not in the audio industry as much as they are in the article. I won't call the writer a lair though. He is not intentionally telling a lie. He is just ignorant.

This whole thread reads like a poll as to whether or not there is a Big Foot. Everybody is talking about what they believe verses what someone else believes. Does it exist or does it not? Some say they have seen it, but they have no proof.... All the while there are groups of people that have some in their freezer and aren't saying anything. The guys that have one in their freezer don't really care what everyone else thinks. They know the answer. It is a fact for them. Okay no one really has a Big Foot in their freezer (that I know of). But for those of us in the audio industry that do this for a living... We have some of these answers. For some of us this stuff is a matter of fact. It doesn't matter what everyone else believes. We already have the answers. Some of them anyway....

It is just really sad to see more people here being mislead by this stuff. More people here taking this poll bought into the lies of Peter Aczel than know the truth.
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Re: The Ten Biggest Lies in Audio

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Which lies?

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I knew someone would try to add a few sparks.

There is some truth in three of the ten things he listed. The rest really just shows his ignorance.
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Re: The Ten Biggest Lies in Audio

The problem with the article and the poll is that it paints everything as a dichotomy. The fact is that there is some truth in most lies and misconceptions in most things that are assumed to be true. You have to qualify virtually every one of the "lies" to get at the truth. The only true statement for nearly all of them is, "it depends." It is where we challenge our own assumptions, do the research, discuss and debate, and do real analysis of data that we learn. Most of what we get with regard to these "lies" is belief or opinion of one flavor or another.




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a major problem with alot of net based info.there is alot of fud with no fact checking.
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Re: The Ten Biggest Lies in Audio

When I get a chance I'll try to hit these one by one.
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Re: The Ten Biggest Lies in Audio

Danny,

Don't know about anybody else but for someone who is not in the industry or have unlimited funds to experiment with all possible combinations & permutations that can affect sound perception I would appreciate that.

I can always draw on experience and knowledge from my own fields and even "common sense" to evaluate claims. However, there are many things in my field that, while true, seem counter-intuitive if you don't fully understand the mechanisms involved. I suspect the same is true of audio.

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Danny you have certainly piqued my interest.
Waiting to see exactly where you stand on the myths.
Cannot tell for sure if you intend to debunk the myths or the article that is debunking the myths.
Popcorn is definitely on the stove though.
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Re: The Ten Biggest Lies in Audio

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When I get a chance I'll try to hit these one by one.
Please start a new thread for each topic and refer to this one in the first post of each.




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