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post #11 of 19 Old 05-08-11, 10:46 PM
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Re: Color-correcting C&S #2 made with the new CS paints

The results are in and sure enough, the other Craft Smart metallic paints (gold and bronze) have changed as well as the silver. When the old CS metallic paints were used in the C&S #2 formula the result was very neutral in color, but when using the new metallics it's a fair ways off.



I'll work at color-correcting this (it will take less of the gold and bronze than before). Another down side to the corrected mix is that the gold and bronze paints will have to be carefully measured now rather than used in whole bottles. I may also try to correct it without using the gold and bronze paints and go with a single color; we'll see how things progress.
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Getting closer, hope to have a workable solution by the weekend.
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Re: Color-correcting C&S #2 made with the new CS paints

The results are in and I have a new mix that can be made with the ingredients of C&S #2, but using the currently available Craft Smart silver, gold and bronze paints. The mix is actually a N8.4 gray so it no longer should be called a Cream&Sugar™ mix (it's too dark), but it can be used as-is to make a N8.4 screen or it can be darkened to N8 by adding the N6 shade-adjuster from the Elektra™ thread. This has not been tested yet, but I would guess around 2.5 oz. should do it.

The really good news is that none of the paints to make this mix need to be measured (unless you want to darken with the N6 paint). We try to make all our mixes as easy to make as possible without giving up performance.

The mix is:
32 oz. Valspar Ultra Premium Enamel Ultra White (one quart can)
16 oz. Craft Smart Silver (one 16 oz. bottle)
4 oz. Craft Smart Gold (two 2 oz. bottles)
2 oz. Craft Smart Bronze (one 2 oz. bottle)

Behr #1850 can be substituted for the Valspar white if necessary. There are no substitutes for the Craft Smart paints.

Here is the Spectral Reflectance Chart for the mix showing it's neutrality. The amounts of paint are expressed as ratios based on 16 oz. being "1 part".

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Re: Color-correcting C&S #2 made with the new CS paints

Thanks Mech. This mix should make an excellent screen, but since it is made with "craft" paints I don't think I would necessarily recommend it unless folks already have the paints on hand. Using craft paints like Delta, FolkArt and Craft Smart have come back to bite screen developers that used them in one form or another; the reason being that such paints can change color, or even manufacturer, at a moments notice because they are only used for "crafts" and are not artist paints which are usually made to far stricter color standards.

Those that have some familiarity with the C&S mixes might notice that this mix is really kind of a combination of the C&S #1 and #2 mixes. I decided it would be best to stick with the silver, gold and bronze paints to color-correct the mix rather than introduce another color. It worked by increasing the silver and decreasing the bronze content. All three Craft Smart metallic colors have changed from what they were before the new red label bottle was introduced.
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Those that have some familiarity with the C&S mixes might notice that this mix is really kind of a combination of the C&S #1 and #2 mixes. I decided it would be best to stick with the silver, gold and bronze paints to color-correct the mix rather than introduce another color. It worked by increasing the silver and decreasing the bronze content. All three Craft Smart metallic colors have changed from what they were before the new red label bottle was introduced.
This is great... I hope to paint my screen this weekend. I will most likely use 3 oz of the N6 (for ease of measure). From the Elektra thread - Has any progress been made with the Lowe's Valspar samplers (I am guessing - Valspar 93679 Paint Sample Satin Base 1)?
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This is great... I hope to paint my screen this weekend. I will most likely use 3 oz of the N6 (for ease of measure). From the Elektra thread - Has any progress been made with the Lowe's Valspar samplers (I am guessing - Valspar 93679 Paint Sample Satin Base 1)?
Yes, we have an N6 tint formula for use with the Valspar 8 oz. samples. Since so little N6 is used compared to the normal volume of a standard C&S mix (this doesn't include C&S Ultra) the sample paint being a satin finish won't matter.

N6 tint formula for Valspar 8 oz. samples:

Valspar 8 oz. sample #93707 Base 2
101 - 6.375
107 - 0.625
109 - 0.313
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Re: Color-correcting C&S #2 made with the new CS paints

I painted my screen over the weekend and like the results. Harpmaker would you be interested in doing a Spectral Reflectance Chart of my mix? My "card" is not the best (manila folder) bottom coat brushed with chip brush (small spill cleanup) top coat rolled without good support. The screen is smoother than the "card" but should reflect my final color.
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I painted my screen over the weekend and like the results. Harpmaker would you be interested in doing a Spectral Reflectance Chart of my mix? My "card" is not the best (manila folder) bottom coat brushed with chip brush (small spill cleanup) top coat rolled without good support. The screen is smoother than the "card" but should reflect my final color.
I would be happy to give you an SRC of your mix. I'll PM you my address.
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Re: Color-correcting C&S #2 made with the new CS paints

I received ram484's sample of this mix and the chart for it is below. Everything looks good! The mix is N8.3 on the Munsell Gray Scale.

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