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post #21 of 28 Old 03-04-13, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Screen Paint Recommendation for Epson 8350

Well after much deliberation I have decided to go with the Cream&Sugar™ Ultra mix
I went to Lowes this weekend and was pleasantly surprised when they mixed up the paint as described without any issues. (I must admin I was a little skeptical having dealt with paint departments in other big box stores.)

I got a quart of the tinted base1 as well as a sample of N6 paint(got the idea from the Elektra thread). I am thinking of adding a couple of tablespoons of the N6 grey to bring Cream&Sugar™ Ultra to an N9 level or just a hair under. Does 2 tablespoons sound like an ok amount?

I was going to post of photos of the products but does not seem like I can upload photos only link them to URLS?

Anyways the base 1 mix is tinted to 115-0.67 for a quart

the base 2 N6 paint is tinted to (number just off slightly do to different rounding on their paint machine compared to the n6 mix described in the Elektra thread)
101-6.38
107-0.63
109-0.31

Have been super busy lately but am hoping to paint on the weekend in the next couple of weeks

cheers

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post #22 of 28 Old 03-04-13, 11:27 AM
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Re: Screen Paint Recommendation for Epson 8350

Adding N6 paint to C&S™ Ultra to make an Elektra™ mix with it would work (adding a neutral to a neutral always equals a neutral). The only thing to be aware of is that the original Elektra™ mix needed to be diluted a bit to prevent the silver metallic paint elements from sparkling as the mix got darker, that isn't a problem with the Liquitex BASICS 'Silver', so instead of adding the N6 paint to your C&S™ Ultra I would recommend replacing the base paint with whatever amount of the N6 you want to use. This will maintain the percentage of silver in the mix since it no longer needs dilution. You can judge the shade of your mix visually, but wait at least 12 hours for the paint to dry (it will dry darker than the wet paint).

When time permits, I do intend on finding a darker neutral paint than N6 to make Elektra™-type mixes.
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Re: Screen Paint Recommendation for Epson 8350

Do you think 1 oz would be a safe bet to bring it down to the N8.8-N9.0 range?


In that case if i am understanding you correctly to make a slightly darker Cream&Sugar™ Ultra I would use:
  • 15oz of the valspar base1(tinted 115-0.67)
  • 1oz of the N6 base 2 (101-6.375 07-0.625 109-0.313)
  • 16 oz of liquitex basics silver.
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Do you think 1 oz would be a safe bet to bring it down to the N8.8-N9.0 range?


In that case if i am understanding you correctly to make a slightly darker Cream&Sugar™ Ultra I would use:
  • 15oz of the valspar base1(tinted 115-0.67)
  • 1oz of the N6 base 2 (101-6.375 07-0.625 109-0.313)
  • 16 oz of liquitex basics silver.
Just doing some quick figuring, I would say to use 1 oz. of N6 to get your final mix in the N8.8-N9 ball park or 2 oz. of N6 to go lower to around N8. I would be glad to do some tests to get more accurate results, but it could take awhile. My area is about to get hit with the largest snowfall of the year so it might be hard to get to my shop.
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Re: Screen Paint Recommendation for Epson 8350

Thanks for the info Harp

I appreciate the offer to do more testing but I think your recommendation will do just fine. ( No need to venture out in the shop in that crazy weather)

I have all the materials ready for the Cream and Sugar Mix.

I am on the fence whether or not to roll or spray (I know in my previous posts i said roll). I am just not sure the smoother finish of the spray is worth masking off the entire room. If I go the spray route I might just pick up a cheap Wagner HVLP fine finishing sprayer.
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Thanks for the info Harp

I appreciate the offer to do more testing but I think your recommendation will do just fine. ( No need to venture out in the shop in that crazy weather)

I have all the materials ready for the Cream and Sugar Mix.

I am on the fence whether or not to roll or spray (I know in my previous posts i said roll). I am just not sure the smoother finish of the spray is worth masking off the entire room. If I go the spray route I might just pick up a cheap Wagner HVLP fine finishing sprayer.
If you want to spray your screen then a HVLP or LVLP sprayer is a must. High pressure sprayers like airless units or conventional spray guns would literally get paint on everything in the room. I haven't used an electric HVLP system yet (I have two still in their boxes ), but the over-spray I get from my compressor-based gun ($12 from Harbor Freight) is minimal and what little paint does bounce off the screen into the room settles as a fine dust. I also don't wear any protective gear when spraying except for a respirator (just to be safe) and any paint that does get on my clothing is dust.
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Re: Screen Paint Recommendation for Epson 8350

Update my projector screen progress

My bulb exploded!

Only about 50 hours on the bulb. The filter is pristine and the closest wall to my projector is about 6 feet. There are no air flow obstructions. The unique thing for my situation is that i bought the projector almost a year ago but just took it out of the box recently.

I had to run the gauntlet of tech support at epson but they agreed to ship me a new bulb The weird thing is they want me to run the projector on high altitude mode despite only being about 30 meter above sea level?

Maybe the defective bulb from the factory could account for my less then expected brightness from my light meter?

The bulb is expected to be here in 7-14 days so will have to resume painting some time after than
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Update my projector screen progress

My bulb exploded!

Only about 50 hours on the bulb. The filter is pristine and the closest wall to my projector is about 6 feet. There are no air flow obstructions. The unique thing for my situation is that i bought the projector almost a year ago but just took it out of the box recently.

I had to run the gauntlet of tech support at epson but they agreed to ship me a new bulb The weird thing is they want me to run the projector on high altitude mode despite only being about 30 meter above sea level?

Maybe the defective bulb from the factory could account for my less then expected brightness from my light meter?
It could well be.

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The bulb is expected to be here in 7-14 days so will have to resume painting some time after than
If you take new brightness measurements please let us know. Good luck!
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