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post #51 of 1197 Old 01-22-08, 03:55 PM
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Re: Black Widow PFG

I'm trying to see what's the recommended application to try this on? Plywood? Polywall? Wilsonart?
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Bidzer see post#52

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Like you said, this is designed to be sprayed so a couple things right off the bat:
  • No need to strain it prior to being used.
  • Definitely sprayable
  • Will probably be able to be sprayed with a Preval Sprayer too for those that want to go that route
  • For those that want to roll, it will act as a natural thinner to latex paint and help it go down very smooth.
All good points. But, you need to be careful rolling this product. It does create bubbles when used in higher AAAaint ratio. Using it 3:1 may not be issue. I'm just passing along my experience. Good luck!
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I've rolled from 3:1 all the way to 6:1, even using the dreaded foam rollers and it's not that bad. Just go slow and take a little care and it's a breeze.

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post #55 of 1197 Old 01-22-08, 05:19 PM
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Hey guys, awesome job on everything that you guys come up with to make the best screen possible. I'm in the same vote as some others here in that the Henry 558 is unavailable in my area. I'm not sure how it works for buying the stuff online and shipping up here to Canada. I'm still a few weeks away from deciding what I want to do for the screen. I will keep up to date on this thread to get updates and if anything easier to get becomes available. Thanks again for the hard work guys.

Once I get the walls up and mudded I plan on putting on some coats of Kilz2 primer and setting up the projector. I will watch a week or two with just the primer on to get idea on final screen size that I want, then final option for screen paint.
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I was just @ Lowes to see what they had and all I saw was this in a gallon:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...-30&lpage=none
I notice that this is a fibered roof paint. I don't know if the fibers can be filtered out or not.

For whatever reason, none of the Lowe's stores in my area sell this.
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OK. Just mixed up a 7:1 ratio (60 mL:10 mL) Behr 4850 to AA Fine Aluminum. Rolled it on a flat white base test panel. It is still drying. Preliminary opinion....it's blue and it's dark. Well see when it's dry. But I'm already thinking it's not for me.
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OK. Just mixed up a 7:1 ratio (60 mL:10 mL) Behr 4850 to AA Fine Aluminum. Rolled it on a flat white base test panel. It is still drying. Preliminary opinion....it's blue and it's dark. Well see when it's dry. But I'm already thinking it's not for me.
Ben how big is your test panel?

Also what I found was by the time I got to a 6:1 ratio there wasn't enough aluminum for an even dispersion throughout the test panel. With my plain water based aluminum the sweet spot was 4:1 and 5:1 test panels.

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Hi guys. My test panel is dry. And, all I can say is yuck. My test panel is 2' x 2' foamboard. I did get even dispersion with my mix. It's just off. The panel is now a violet, gray looking colour. It is really too dark for anything. When I was using my original CG screen, I had alot more AAA to white paint ratio. That provided the gain to bring back the pop in the colourrs. With the low AAA to paint ratio, it's just a dark gray screen. And yes, I am not adjusting my projector for this simply because my main screen is looking really good now and I don't want to mess with my settings. I'll take some pics later on this week.
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Before they released what the materials was I bought some Aluminum paint and mixed up my own variation. It showed some promise so got my spectrophotometer and measured the L a b values and determined I had a blue push. Today I have changed my base to correct for this problem and hope for a near nuetral conclusion. I will gladly share my results if anybody cares.
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