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post #1 of 9 Old 12-19-08, 04:38 AM Thread Starter
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Monitoring excessive LFE.1 with spectrumlab

Itís a rather unappreciable channel so Iíll cut to the chase.

What Iíve done is take one film for monitoring (Event Horizon 1997) chapter 8 at (37 minutes 35 seconds to 37 minutes 38 seconds) this where (Sam Neill, Jurassic Park) looks hypnotized as he stares deeply into the rotating ball that powers the ship to travel or bend time and space to reach great distances in a short time.

Iíve re-plugged the connections that used to go as LFE.1 out to my audio mixers line 6 input then from output on one of the two line outputs to the FBQ2496 and then output tracing back though a second EQ that I use to make minor trims if the soundtrack is too much on the LFE.1 which is often the case and often leads to damaged sub bass speakers.

Now Iíve taken the output from LFE.1 sent it directly to the FBQ2496 and from the output to the audio mixers line 6 input and from the output I can monitor the spectrumlab frequency waterfall or waterfalls of independent LCRS if I want though the other low channel outputs from LCRS.

Now what was giving me, the cheeps as much as (the disturbing visual images) from the film LOL was the heavy peak in the middle part of the spectrum. So I looked at it and thought what if I apply a (Q of 1.0) and reduce the level and select a frequency of (43.7Hz -12db for argument sakes) and hmmm, now thatíís different and smoother as well.

Iím going to conduct further testing later on with this approach with the JBL 4645 sub and LCRS.

I had to borrow the lead that powers the smaller sub bass Eltax A 12-R I need to make up a new XLR lead to go from the FBQ2496, and I have very little solder left.


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Re: Monitoring excessive LFE.1 with spectrumlab

So we're looking at the actual LFE channel at the source here?
Why would you filter that?


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Re: Monitoring excessive LFE.1 with spectrumlab

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So we're looking at the actual LFE channel at the source here?
Why would you filter that?
That is good question why would I take this approach that came to me out of the blue and itís seems to have relaxed the excessiveness of the moment in the film. Anyway its just an experiment at the moment. If I like how it performs Iíll stick to this method or approach that isnít really doing any harm. Iíll see how far I can stretch this with other soundtracks.

You can see how its softened it out with the two frequency waterfalls.

I made up a new RCA to XLR lead didnít take long and Iíve used the other XLR female to RCA as monitoring lead. I like how the scene is playing and Iíve had it on A&B repeat for nearly or over an hour talk about obsession with LFE.1. LOL Iím gonna have to find something new or Iíll end like Dr Weir LOL. It still vibrates the room and sofa.

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Re: Monitoring excessive LFE.1 with spectrumlab

What happens if the peak happens at 30Hz, or 54Hz?

You've just created a 12dB dip at 43Hz, and I can't for the life of me understand why?


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What happens if the peak happens at 30Hz, or 54Hz?

You've just created a 12dB dip at 43Hz, and I can't for the life of me understand why?
Hi there again. LOL I did consider that LOL (trail and error) could be worse LOL.

Giving another flick a try (Arachnophobia 1990) whoa BASS hevery over the LCR mostly in the centre channel. this film was wicked in THX at the CIC/UCI cinema at High Wycombe on cold early January 1990 but the THX soon warmed me up with in your CHEST BASS as well as the ears getting a heavy beating on the first 15 minutes of the film.

I do frequency sweep a try with spectrumlab later on with the ECM8000 patched up and take it from there.

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Re: Monitoring excessive LFE.1 with spectrumlab

Could be you have inadverently got rid of a room node and it sounds better, and relieve your straining subwoofer in the process, which is a good thing.

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Re: Monitoring excessive LFE.1 with spectrumlab

No strain on it just too loud on the film for this room. Try toast with batter, tuna fish and mayonnaise, yummy.

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Re: Monitoring excessive LFE.1 with spectrumlab

Andy,

If I remember right you had a very large 30-40hz peak in your sw's room response. You'd be better off using the EQ to get a flatter FR at your listening position before messing with the mix of the soundtrack which will vary everytime. Your sw and listening room will not vary.
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Re: Monitoring excessive LFE.1 with spectrumlab

Morning there

Yeah the dreaded peaks wavelengths! You know what tickles me? When I play a sine wave at the lowest 20Hz or 30Hz and open the door too the flat, it just rattles neighbours doors one and two floors down LOL. They probably think itís the washing machine LOL on full spin!

I performed a rather length frequency last night longer than usual. I ran REW frequency sound generator (frequency sweep) while looking at the spectrumlab same way as youíd have REW set-up wit the microphone at listening position.

It was the colour spectrum that I was looking at where some frequencies had hot colures of pink and others like green yellow and red. Too bad I donít have room up front for four subs three at the very least and that would look very ugly staring back at you.

The response is near flat at the moment. Oh, is there a way of saving the frequency bands Q and level settings with the (click on) pdf file mode or does that only capture the frequency response. Also it doesnít appear to be saving the file each time I go into the file where each one has been saved, it wonít open or at least does, donít doesnít display the graph?

Iíll use the (print screen) method at least I know that works.

Merry Christmas only whoa! 5 shopping days left, yikes, looks like I better get my act together for that day.
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