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post #31 of 51 Old 11-16-14, 04:27 AM
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Re: Acoustic Treatment Phase 2

Now you got me thinking about tweaking my speaker placement Peter
I have restricted speaker place options also. My front wall is 10' from my seat. If I moved the speaker further into the room, away from the front wall, I worry when I recline the speaker may become a footrest.

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So how is it going with the speaker placement issue's you have been dealing with? Have you thought about going 30" from the wall and placing a monster trap behind them? Maybe try a 242 and a 244 behind each main andifference see how it sounds. Just a thought.
Since my last post here I have made a couple changes. The Chane subs are gone so I'm running my Studio 100s full range until my new subs arrive in a few days. I also have a Yamaha RX-A3040 in the system for review. My mains are currently spaced out 33 inches (front of speaker to front wall). I have not done any REW sweeps of this setup but for music it is sounding as good as I've ever heard it sound. I don't know if it's a matter of finding a sweet spot for the speakers or if the Yamaha is just a much better match for them. I mean, I'm really pleased with the sound as it is right now. I am still planning to put some panels behind the mains and possibly some corner traps in the back of the room. I'd still like to get the room to a point where acoustics are less affected by speaker placement. I have six 2" thick OC panels that I will probably use to make some panels for the front wall.


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Now you got me thinking about tweaking my speaker placement Peter I have restricted speaker place options also. My front wall is 10' from my seat. If I moved the speaker further into the room, away from the front wall, I worry when I recline the speaker may become a footrest.
Your situation is somewhat similar to mine, but it sounds like I have a bit more room up front. I can live with the mains out into the room a bit, it's just a matter of having to walk around one when coming into the room. If it sounds this good though that is a small price to pay. If I can get good results with panels on the front wall and move the mains back a bit, I'll be a happy camper. I'm going to leave things as they are until my subs are set up. I'll play with crossover settings to see what I come up with and go from there.


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Since my last post here I have made a couple changes. The Chane subs are gone so I'm running my Studio 100s full range until my new subs arrive in a few days. I also have a Yamaha RX-A3040 in the system for review. My mains are currently spaced out 33 inches (front of speaker to front wall). I have not done any REW sweeps of this setup but for music it is sounding as good as I've ever heard it sound. I don't know if it's a matter of finding a sweet spot for the speakers or if the Yamaha is just a much better match for them. I mean, I'm really pleased with the sound as it is right now. I am still planning to put some panels behind the mains and possibly some corner traps in the back of the room. I'd still like to get the room to a point where acoustics are less affected by speaker placement. I have six 2" thick OC panels that I will probably use to make some panels for the front wall.


Your situation is somewhat similar to mine, but it sounds like I have a bit more room up front. I can live with the mains out into the room a bit, it's just a matter of having to walk around one when coming into the room. If it sounds this good though that is a small price to pay. If I can get good results with panels on the front wall and move the mains back a bit, I'll be a happy camper. I'm going to leave things as they are until my subs are set up. I'll play with crossover settings to see what I come up with and go from there.
Would treating the wall behind the speakers alleviate having to bring the speakers out into the room?

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Would treating the wall behind the speakers alleviate having to bring the speakers out into the room?
Potentially yes. In my case I think reflections off the front wall are causing some cancellation in the 100Hz-400Hz range at the MLP. Some bass trapping on the front wall should improve that in theory.


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Re: Acoustic Treatment Phase 2

I treated my front wall without moving speakers out in the room & noticed big improvement in the low to mid range frequencies

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Re: Acoustic Treatment Phase 2

Good to know. I think I will end up treating most of the front wall with 2" thick panels, and use 4" thickness behind the speakers and see if that improves the mid-bass response enough to move the mains a bit closer to the wall.


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I treated the entire front wall with 2 inch linacoustic 1st & then installed corner front bass traps. Big improvement. I have a false wall with acoustic screen so the installation is behind acoustic screen.

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Re: Acoustic Treatment Phase 2

My back of the mains are 12 inch from back wall.

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Re: Acoustic Treatment Phase 2

My current display is a 60" plasma, so I could do a partial false wall, which Ron suggested earlier in this thread. I have some ideas for that option which I may explore down the road. It would allow me to easily treat the whole front wall and bring the TV out into alignment with the front of the speakers. Eventually I would like to go to a projector setup, but probably not until 4k prices come way down. I will probably order some DIY frames soon for the OC boards I have left, and at least mount a panel behind each speaker and see where that gets me.


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Re: Acoustic Treatment Phase 2

I am looking at treating the whole wall behind the screen with either 1 layer of 3" Roxul R60 or 1 layer of 9" Fiberglass insulation (fluffy).

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