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post #1 of 28 Old 04-01-08, 08:57 PM Thread Starter
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Timbre matching...only important for music?

I am in a transitional period with a hodge podge of speakers currently.
I have always read how important timbre matching is for at least the front stage.
I have noticed no ill effects of having different brand L&R's and center.
Now, I almost always listen to music in 2.1, but all tv programming and BR movies utilize all seven speakers.
I watched No Country for Old Men again last night on BR and I noticed no ill effects from the different speakers.

So is it either:
A. Am I correct in now believing it isn't a big deal?
--OR--
B. My hearing is so cruddy and that is why I don't hear any audible issues?


The reason I ask is that since I haven't noticed any problems, if I could stop trying to find a timbre matched center and go with the best center I can afford since it is 'SO' dominant in movies?
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Re: Timbre matching...only important for music?

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I watched No Country for Old Men again last night on BR and I noticed no ill effects from the different speakers.
As posted elsewhere, you are not likely to notice any ill effects unless you can compare it with a matched system. If you do, you may or may not hear a significant difference.
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Re: Timbre matching...only important for music?

I also think the entire matched system is an over-blown "requirment", I have had 2 matched systems and several variations of front only matched and even seperate fronts and center from dynamic, to Planar, to even Electrostat systems I have owned and in all but 1 case there was no real difference. Even in my current system with matched fronts and center and 4 matched surrounds from seperate company I can notice no ill effects in SACD or DVD-A let alone HT. Either I am very lucky or it simply is not always as needed as many suggest. I firmly suspect it is the latter.
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Re: Timbre matching...only important for music?

And now that I think about it,...I've never had an unmatched system. Come to think of it, I've even had a matching sub in all but maybe 4 systems. Might be worth mixing and matching just to see what kind of difference I can discern.

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Re: Timbre matching...only important for music?

I did have mismatched speakers at one time but of inferior quality and it drove me nuts for HT. I am of the mindset that most quality speakers will blend quite nicely as most are quite clear in their presentations and not muddy sounding.
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Re: Timbre matching...only important for music?

I use this simple experiment to illustrate the need for matched fronts, at the least. Using the AVIA disc, play one of the 5-channel sweeps. on most unmatched systems, you can clearly hear the "blob" of sound transitioning between speakers. With a matched system (especially 5 identical speakers), the sound moves smoothly in a circle.

This is also a great way to setup you soundstage and adjust the level of tilt in you center, using it is above/below you TV, and not behind an AT screen.
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I use this simple experiment to illustrate the need for matched fronts, at the least. Using the AVIA disc, play one of the 5-channel sweeps. on most unmatched systems, you can clearly hear the "blob" of sound transitioning between speakers. With a matched system (especially 5 identical speakers), the sound moves smoothly in a circle.

This is also a great way to setup you soundstage and adjust the level of tilt in you center, using it is above/below you TV, and not behind an AT screen.


I will try this, as that would be a great test.
If I do not notice any ill-effects I think I may just buy the best center I can afford and try to keep the tweeters of the same design at least to aide in fidelity.
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Re: Timbre matching...only important for music?

Hello I have 5 identical speakers (NS-1000) and even with that, it is difficult to achive timbre matching because the speaker timber depends on the environement where the speaker is. All the 5 speakers are in the same room (of course) but they are not in the same corner. Each corner have a particular environement and reflexion.

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Hello I have 5 identical speakers (NS-1000) and even with that, it is difficult to achive timbre matching because the speaker timber depends on the environement where the speaker is. All the 5 speakers are in the same room (of course) but they are not in the same corner. Each corner have a particular environement and reflexion.

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Yeah, corners and walls can do crazy things. Best to get speakers out of corners and a few feet away from walls if possible.
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Re: Timbre matching...only important for music?

So some hear differences and some don't, inbcluding people who have had timbre matched in the past but not currently.
Could this depend on hearing ability? I do have verified hearing loss, could that play a part?
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