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post #1 of 20 Old 04-14-08, 12:13 PM
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axiom?

can anyone tell me if this axiom set-up would be a good for the money?
also i think i might be able to get a better sub for less than this one.
all suggestions/comments appreciated!

front: m80 v2 $1330 pair
rear: qs8 v2 $540 pair
center: vp150 v2 $408
sub: ep500 v2 $1230

total: $3508

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post #2 of 20 Old 04-14-08, 12:24 PM
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Re: axiom?

I know a lot of people that have been extremely happy with Axiom.

There may be others who believe you can make better use of $3500 though...
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Re: axiom?

Yup,... most of what I've heard about Axiom is positive. The exception seems to be their center channel speakers. I have also heard Axiom speakers described as bright or forward? Which may be a positive or a negative. Unfortunately all I can do is relate third hand info as I have not heard them.

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i don't know about the speakers ... but i have the EP500 and it is overpriced and obsolete.

it's got a port tuning of 25hz, much too high for HT.
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Re: axiom?

Yeah... I will agree... while their speakers are popular, their subs are lacking and way overpriced. Check out our Subwoofer Tests forum on their top of the line EP600.

Axiom EP-600 (1st test)

Axiom EP-600 (2nd test)

I will make no bones about it... SVSound subs are excellent bang for the buck subs... they are the king daddy when it comes to manufactured subs. Nathan at Funky Waves also knows how to make some good subs and often has specials.

$1250 will get you a lot more sub... Add about $300 more and with a PB13-Ultra or PC-Ultra!
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Re: axiom?

For that kind of money, you might want to look at other alternatives, such as SVS, Ascend, Hsu or even PSB.

I've spent the last six months doing research and if you're like me, it's easy to get befuddled. At one time I had decided to go with Axiom, but some between the lines comments in a couple of reviews in addtion to some user comments led me to continue looking.

It's so hard to know what to do with internet direct sales. I finally started to lean towards Ascends and came across a good buy on their HTM-200's the smallest of their speakers. I figured I could always put them to some use and they would give me some indication of the sound and build quality of the line. I've been extremely pleased and have decided to outfit my HT with Ascends, including using the used HTM-200's as back surround.

My research led me to conclude that Axioms are fine speakers (excepting their subs), but you can get the same or better performance elsewhere for a lot less.

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Re: axiom?

Well as an Axiom owner I can say that the M80s are a good speaker for the money (similar in sound to Paradigm studio 100s) as are the QS8 surround speakers, you can't go wrong with them. The VP150 center channel does have its share of reviews questioning it's off axis ability but most horizontaly oriented center channels I have heard have similar issues, a drop off of volume off axis. I do not find the off axis dialogue to be lacking clarity as listed in a couple of reviews. In my room I have only one seat that is far enough off axis for it to matter and I would guess most home HT setups are similar. Axiom does have another center, VP100, with a more usual WTW design that is very abundant in the HT center channel speaker lines which could be considered as an alternative if the VP150 isn't for you.

I do agree the Axiom subwoofers are overpriced in relation to what is out there in todays market place. If I were to buy an Axiom sub I would go for the new EP350v3, it is only $700 and plays nearly on par to the Ep500/600 for half the cost.

I would also recommend you look into Axioms Factory Outlet, you save 10% from there and then an additional 5% if 5 or more items are purchased. The FO speakers have very minor cosmetic blemishes on them and makes Axioms and even better deal.

To find out for yourself I would have you go to Axiom's own website and look in the hearing things forum for a possible audition of some Axioms nearby.
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Re: axiom?

and did i mention that axiom doesn't even answer customers (me) respectfully on why their subs measure poorly?

EP350 specs:

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Anechoic Resp. +/- 3dB 28 - 150 Hz
Room Resp. + 3dB/- 9dB 18 - 150 Hz
last time i checked -9db is practically nothing. fudge brownie?

28hz extension for 700 bucks? i'd go for velodyne DLS-R series anyday over that overpriced sub.

half overpriced is still overpriced.

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and did i mention that axiom doesn't even answer customers (me) respectfully on why their subs measure poorly?

half overpriced is still overpriced.
This may be unfair, especially since I haven't heard their products, but I can't help but wonder about their other speakers given the price and specs of their subwoofers.

As for respect, I've actually read a post from the owner of one internet speaker company heaping praise on a competitor's product and actually suggesting that for his purpose they may be the best choice. That goes a long way towards making me believe any claims for the poster's products, plus leads me to believe he's a stand up guy. His products were immediately added to my short list.
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This may be unfair, especially since I haven't heard their products, but I can't help but wonder about their other speakers given the price and specs of their subwoofers.

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Your right it is unfair, as their speakers really are top notch, would they be right for you, only you can answer that once you hear them. Axiom's subs might not test well but they sound pretty good to me when not stressed out. Even Ilka said the EP600 didn't sound bad. Are they overpriced in todays market, I think so too.


If you had a chance of avoiding bad publicity/reviews wouldn't you? Yes it was the honest thing to do but at the same time he was looking out for his company, a very smart move.

As far as Mikes comment about taking the DLS 5000R over the 350, I wouldn't, as I found the DLS to be boomy, not tight like the Axioms, it didn't sound right to me for music and I didn't miss the extra little bit of lower end the DLS had when I compared the 2. Now would I take the 350 over the PB12-NSD I have, no way, the PB12 is much better.

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