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post #1 of 17 Old 02-21-17, 07:37 PM Thread Starter
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Seaton Sound Catalysts/Submersive?

Has anybody on here ever hear of Seaton Sound and the Catalyst speakers? I did some searching and couldn't really find anything on here about them. Was just wondering if anybody on here was familiar with them. That's what I currently have, I've had them since August 2013
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post #2 of 17 Old 02-22-17, 01:54 AM
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Re: Seaton Sound Catalysts/Submersive?

We know Mark and his speakers well. He has made improvements to his tweeters recently, and Dennis Young (Tesseract) and I heard them at RMAF in October. They absolutely blew us away. They are great speakers and just keep getting better each time he tweaks them.
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Re: Seaton Sound Catalysts/Submersive?

I've heard several all-Seaton systems in the past few years, at GTG's and peoples houses. You want precision and performance their stuff should get strong consideration. Regarding the dearth of information...

Mark goes about things a bit differently than most people do, so his business model is not the conventional one. He's a bit low-key in that way, but when you meet the man he's a non-stop wealth of information. Ask him pretty much anything about audio and he can provide an answer.
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Re: Seaton Sound Catalysts/Submersive?

I'm interested on his update. I'm actually familiar with Mark and his Catalysts. I actually own 3 Catalyst 12C's and 2 Submersive HP's right now. I put them up for sale in January, I was planning on getting the JBL M2's to replace the Cats.

@AudiocRaver , have you heard the JBL M2's? If so, what did you think of them and how would you compare them to Mark's updated Catalysts with the new coax/dsp tuning?
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Yes I have. It is difficult to make a direct comparison, they were in different rooms and systems. Mark is as good an expert as exists when it comes to speaker and room setup, so it is fair to say that his Catalysts might have had the setup advantage.

Beyond that all I can say is:
  • The M2s were good but not without issues
  • The Catalysts blew me away, and I got the same feedback from another trusted pair of ears at the same event
The story is far from seamless, but based on what I know, I would go with the Catalysts.
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Yes I have. It is difficult to make a direct comparison, they were in different rooms and systems. Mark is as good an expert as exists when it comes to speaker and room setup, so it is fair to say that his Catalysts might have had the setup advantage.

Beyond that all I can say is:
  • The M2s were good but not without issues
  • The Catalysts blew me away, and I got the same feedback from another trusted pair of ears at the same event
The story is far from seamless, but based on what I know, I would go with the Catalysts.
Wow, that's very interesting. That's the opposite of most of the impressions I got from those that have heard both, but those that have heard both haven't heard the Cats with Marks updates.

What issue's did you notice with the M2's? I know usually IMD is an issue with coax drivers like what is used on the Cats.
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Re: Seaton Sound Catalysts/Submersive?

I am considering one of the following two setups:

Projector: *still deciding*
Screen: 100" (diagonal) 16:9 Stewart Filmscreen StudioTek 100
Ultra HD Blu-ray player: OPPO UDP-203
Processor: Arcam AV860
Amplifiers: Emotiva XPA Gen3 3-channel (for LCR) + Emotiva XPA Gen3 4-channel (for side and back surrounds) + Emotiva XPA Gen3 4-channel (for four ceiling speakers)
Mains: 2 x Klipsch RF-7 III
Center: 1 x Klipsch RC-64 III
Side surrounds: 2 x Klipsch RP-160M
Back surrounds: 2 x Klipsch RP-160M
Ceiling speakers: 4 x Klipsch RP-160M
Subwoofers: 2 x Seaton Sound SubMersive HPi+ + 2 x Seaton Sound SubMersive HP-Slave

or

Projector: *still deciding*
Screen: 100" (diagonal) 16:9 Stewart Filmscreen StudioTek 100
Ultra HD Blu-ray player: OPPO UDP-203
Processor: Arcam AV860
Mains: 2 x Seaton Sound Catalyst 8C with matching stands
Center: 1 x Seaton Sound Catalyst 8C
Side surrounds: 2 x Seaton Sound Spark XC2 + SSA-2x2-XC amp
Back surrounds: 2 x Seaton Sound Spark XC2 + SSA-2x2-XC amp
Ceiling speakers: 4 x Seaton Sound Spark XC2 + SSA-2x2-XC amp
Subwoofers: 2 x Seaton Sound SubMersive HPi+ + 2 x Seaton Sound SubMersive HP-Slave

My room is roughly 15 ft long x 12 ft wide x 9.5 ft high. The room is made of concrete all around.

I didn't know Mark made some improvements to the tweeters. Possible to highlight what the improvements are?

Lastly, which of the two setups do you guys think would be better? I am leaning towards the full Seaton Sound setup.
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I am considering one of the following two setups:

Projector: *still deciding*
Screen: 100" (diagonal) 16:9 Stewart Filmscreen StudioTek 100
Ultra HD Blu-ray player: OPPO UDP-203
Processor: Arcam AV860
Amplifiers: Emotiva XPA Gen3 3-channel (for LCR) + Emotiva XPA Gen3 4-channel (for side and back surrounds) + Emotiva XPA Gen3 4-channel (for four ceiling speakers)
Mains: 2 x Klipsch RF-7 III
Center: 1 x Klipsch RC-64 III
Side surrounds: 2 x Klipsch RP-160M
Back surrounds: 2 x Klipsch RP-160M
Ceiling speakers: 4 x Klipsch RP-160M
Subwoofers: 2 x Seaton Sound SubMersive HPi+ + 2 x Seaton Sound SubMersive HP-Slave

or

Projector: *still deciding*
Screen: 100" (diagonal) 16:9 Stewart Filmscreen StudioTek 100
Ultra HD Blu-ray player: OPPO UDP-203
Processor: Arcam AV860
Mains: 2 x Seaton Sound Catalyst 8C with matching stands
Center: 1 x Seaton Sound Catalyst 8C
Side surrounds: 2 x Seaton Sound Spark XC2 + SSA-2x2-XC amp
Back surrounds: 2 x Seaton Sound Spark XC2 + SSA-2x2-XC amp
Ceiling speakers: 4 x Seaton Sound Spark XC2 + SSA-2x2-XC amp
Subwoofers: 2 x Seaton Sound SubMersive HPi+ + 2 x Seaton Sound SubMersive HP-Slave

My room is roughly 15 ft long x 12 ft wide x 9.5 ft high. The room is made of concrete all around.

I didn't know Mark made some improvements to the tweeters. Possible to highlight what the improvements are?

Lastly, which of the two setups do you guys think would be better? I am leaning towards the full Seaton Sound setup.
The full Seaton set up, without a doubt. Not to knock Klipsch, but the Seatons are in another league. Cat 12C's aren't in the cards?

From what I know about the tweeter improvements, most of the improvements are in dispersion. They have a wider dispersion making for a wider sweet spot and bigger soundstage.
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The full Seaton set up, without a doubt. Not to knock Klipsch, but the Seatons are in another league. Cat 12C's aren't in the cards?

From what I know about the tweeter improvements, most of the improvements are in dispersion. They have a wider dispersion making for a wider sweet spot and bigger soundstage.
I probably could spring for the 12C but it would be a stretch budget wise and, secondly, I am not sure they would be required for my relatively small room which is roughly 15 ft long x 12 ft wide x 9.5 ft high. The distance from the front speakers to the listening position is somewhere between 9-10 ft. Would you say I should still try to get the 12C?
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Re: Seaton Sound Catalysts/Submersive?

I heard a Seaton HT that consisted of the Catalyst 12's for LCR and Catalyst 8's for surrounds, along with quad Submersives - so 5 speakers and 4 subwoofers - in a room probably twice the size of yours and the system could easily make a movie theater seem tame. All the volume and detail anyone would ever need, so while the 12's might be nice for the fronts I don't see you needing them in a room the size of yours.

If you go with an all Seaton setup I would love to hear that. Beers are on me!

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