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post #1 of 37 Old 11-18-10, 12:30 AM Thread Starter
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More features for more money?

Hello everyone,

I have been researching quality projectors and am leaning towards
solid state light source as opposed to lamps.

I like the features and specs in the $5000 to $8000 range.
Not to mention that is all I would be willing or able to pay.

My question is what is the difference when you compare
this price range to something like the "Wolf" brand projector
which is somewhere in the $85,000 range?

I am sure they both have great glass and good light source
and good electronics but what else could they possibly do
to a projector justify paying that much more?

And could I get all the the same features in my price range?

Just curious,
Thanks, Dave
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Re: More features for more money?

Definitely out of my league. If I had a room that would work, I'd be looking at a $2000 Epson. What are the specific features/specs that you are on the lookout for?
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Yeh oh man, a $80,000 projector had better sing. I've followed projector progress for about 10 years, and am impressed they improve at about the rate that computers do. So generally you are better off spending less for a newer model. The $2000 Epson available today would have cost $10,000 five years ago. Those JVC projectors now going for $5,000 - $8,000 are desirable, to be sure, and they just weren't available five years ago. Who could need anything more, unless one needed to light up a 50 ft. screen?
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Re: More features for more money?

I'd never buy the 1st generation of anything.


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Re: More features for more money?

Hello Mr Marshall

I had a chance to read a bit more and look around
over at the wolfcinema website and yes its
all out of my league as well by far.

Kind of like looking at a shiny red $100,000 sports car
that I will never own or drive.

Their equipment appears to be all very high end for any
home theater I could imagine. Better stick with a Ford or a Chevy.

Just getting into the basics of understanding what kind
of projectors are out there right now.

It seems like the LED projectors are getting a
foothold in the market but still fairly new.

Having a standard lamp type projector would not be
so bad for me, but my wife would not be as understanding
when a $200 to $300 lamp burns out.

That is why I am leaning to the LED or similar type.
Hopefully by the time I get my HT room built
there will be some new projector models to check out.

Thank you.
Dave.
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Re: More features for more money?

Look at the price difference between LED and bulb-lit projectors. Now, most new projectors have bulbs somewhere in the $150-250 range. How many bulbs will the price difference buy? Assuming a bulb will last you 2+ years, how many years until you break even with the more-expensive LED projector over the bulbs? How much do you think a new projector will cost in that many years given the rapid price decline we've seen over the past 5 or so?
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Re: More features for more money?

Hello,

Excellent insightful analysis.
Makes perfect sense.

Get whats already good equipment now and
enjoy it without breaking the bank.

Look at the high tech model when it comes
down to a more sensible price range later.

Thank you.
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Re: More features for more money?

I find it alarming that someone comes in with a $8k budget and he's guided to a $2k lcd projector! (Tho Trick kinda hinted at JVC)


But, anyway, Im really confused Galaxydrifter, can you help me out???

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I like the features and specs in the $5000 to $8000 range.
Not to mention that is all I would be willing or able to pay.
But then you lost me on this:


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but my wife would not be as understanding
when a $200 to $300 lamp burns out.
So your wife would be understanding of you dropping $8,000 on a projector, but will have some issues with periodic $300 lamps every couple of years?

And to answer your question on the "wolf", those prices are for a dlp projector that has a dedicated color chip for each color, red green and blue (a $2000 lcd has ONE chip for all colors) A triple chip is what you want, and will beat a single chip projector in every single way. Yes, a 3 chip has a lamp that needs replaced, but then so does a single chip. PLUS the wolf has an extremely high light output for super large screens....


Sir, let me be honest, if your budget is $8k I recommend you run away from a $2k LCD projector! A $2000 projector is built for the cash-strapped masses, such as myself, and those that dont have an $8k budget! However, you wont need to spend $8k (not even close) to beat the snot out of a $2000 "LCD" projector! I highly recommend you look at the vastly superior performance of the JVC triple-chip technology of their Dila projectors!

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/f...l_id=MDL101733

$5000 for JVC's best!

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those prices are for a dlp projector that has a dedicated color chip for each color, red green and blue (a $2000 lcd has ONE chip for all colors)
Yes, I guess that's why they prominently display this:





JVC would be a good place to look though


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Re: More features for more money?

I simply stated that, I personally would be looking at a $2000 projector. I should have been more specific and finished with "because I don't have a $8000 budget". Still, just because you have $8000 to spend, doesn't mean your should. Without understanding the complete setup, it would be irresponsible to recommend spending $8000 on a projector, when speakers, sources, and acoustic treatments may be lacking. Big Box stores are king of taking you right up to your budget and beyond if they can regardless of what you need. At the HT shack, I like to think that we repulse good value, and encourage people to consider all the options.

I think the Epsons in the $2-3k range represent one the the best values in the history of Hone Theater. I also believe that projectors will continue to improve image quality and lower price in the sane way that TVs have. Ask anyone who bought an $8k TV 5 years ago if they wouldn't trade it for a $2k TV today, and I be they'll say "yes".

The counter argument to that is that they'll also likely say they got their $8k worth of use out of it in those 5 years.

At the end of the day, speakers, amps, and rooms are good bets for large investments. Displays, physical media, and feature-heavy AVRs are not because these are the most moving of targets in today's market. My opinion is that you should invest heavily in the last category only after you've invested in the first.
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