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post #71 of 90 Old 03-14-07, 12:37 AM
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Re: Yamaha RX-V1700 Receiver / RX-V2700 Receiver - Official Owners Thread

yes, please let us know what the 2807 gives up to the 1700 or vice versa.

I for one would like the multiple crossover settings for each channel as well. my HK does it, thanks to your info, now I know Denon has it too.

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Features in a nutshell.

I've owned the 3805, 3806 and installed a couple of 2805's. A couple of things I like are larger volume display from my seat and independent crossovers for each channel. Another is a max volume setting that was handy to control my daughter's finger on the Volume Up button.
Yeah, I know how that is, to be spoiled on whatever little things you like, and then to have them taken away from you. It makes a difference. But independent crossovers for each channel is critical. I would not consider buying a pre/pro/receiver that locked me into a single crossover point for all channels. Max volume would be nice as my daughter gets bigger...

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Re: Yamaha RX-V1700 Receiver / RX-V2700 Receiver - Official Owners Thread

Thanks guys... I believe we have a comparison thread started between the 2807 and 1700, so I'll definitely update everyone with my thoughts between the two once I get the 2807 in hand.
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after checking specs of different brands ... Yamaha is the only manufacturer without different crossover settings for the sets of channels.

HK has it, Denon has it, Onkyo has it.

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A couple of things I like are larger volume display from my seat and independent crossovers for each channel.
I've read a few articles that suggest the independant crossovers can cause phase problems. Maybe someone with this feature could run some tests with REW and see if its possible to optimize the phase setting for more than one crossover frequency.

This one talks about it toward the bottom of the article. I have read others advising against it but I can't find them right now.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...rs-9-2002.html


Good or not, a manufacturer can't afford not to have it when all the others have. I heard Anthem left it out of the D1 (i think) because they thought it was a bad idea but eventually had to offer a software upgrade because of all the customers requesting it be added.


Ideally the AVR would have a variable phase control for all channels, i suppose you could start playing around with speaker distance settings to tweak the crossover points.
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Re: Yamaha RX-V1700 Receiver / RX-V2700 Receiver - Official Owners Thread

The major channels I would like independent crossovers is between the sub and the remaining speakers. IOW, as long as I can set the crossover for the sub and then set another for the remaining speakers, I'm cool. I'm generally always going to set the 5.0 speakers to 80Hz, however I may want to set my sub at 90Hz or 100Hz, or possible 70Hz. The phase can be adjusted on most subs.
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Re: Yamaha RX-V1700 Receiver / RX-V2700 Receiver - Official Owners Thread

Be thoughtful with non-matching x-o's, or, regrettably, any x-o other than 80Hz.

Hakka has it right in his previous post #75. The article he links to by Colin Miller and Brian Florian should be required reading for anyone with a receiver or pre/pro capable of different x-o frequencies.

It's the audio article I most refer folks to -- by far.

It's very hard not to get upset by the bottom line, that you really need a block diagram of how your particular DSP chipset manipulates the LFE signal, and that even with such a block diagram you may be stuck using an 80Hz global x-o, and that even then you may have LFE signal truncation since the LFE channel is not brickwalled until 120Hz.
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Manually adjusting the EQ bands is available in the HTR models.
You do get a 7 band EQ with fixed frequencies and no Q adjustment on at least some of the HTR models, similar to what Sonnie has on the 1700.

Compare, say, page 90 of the HTR-6090 manual:
http://www.abtelectronics.com/images...TR-6090_om.pdf
with page 89 of the RX-V2700 manual:
http://www.yamaha-uk.com/pdf/owner_manuals/RX-V2700.pdf
(couldn't find a 2700 .pdf on a US site anymore -- pagination is different than the US manual in my hand in which the identical PEQ text appears on page 98).

Unless you have actually edited the PEQ's yourself on an HTR, I continue to believe that on the HTR's you have a choice of using the PEQ bands only as set automatically by the YPAO auto setup, or using the manual 7 band EQ instead.
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I have read all the threads on the RX-V 1700. I am still not clear on the MPCM question discussed at length earlier. When using my PS3 player with blu-ray, Yamaha is also showing the MPCM in the display when playing the movies. Although the PS3 will show in its on screen display that it is in DTS, DD, etc, the Yamaha is showing the MPCM only. It sounds good but it makes me wonder if that is the best setting or if I have other choices with the receiver. Could/Should I use the DSP settings to improve it or to force DD or DTS?
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...the Yamaha is showing the MPCM only. It sounds good but it makes me wonder if that is the best setting or if I have other choices with the receiver. Could/Should I use the DSP settings to improve it or to force DD or DTS?
Since the PS3 has the capability of doing Dolby TrueHD lossless codec decode internally you are best off letting the player (PS3) do the decode and use the uncompressed lossless multichannel linear PCM via HDMI to get the audio to your receiver.
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