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Re: Denon 4311 input settings / sub level options...

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I get Denon through one of my distributors at dealer cost, but I don't sell via the Internet. I do however sell my used demo equipment from time to time via Internet. The problem is I can't find anything else out there that does what I want it to do over what this Denon will do. I want XT32 with Sub EQ HT... and I want 12 volt triggers that work on the main zone... this receiver is it as far as I know. I wish someone would create a prepro, but it doesn't look promising.
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As far as AVR's go, I am almost positive that the Integra 70.3 and 80.3 both would accommodate these requirements. And the Integra SSP would as well. In addition, when Outlaw SSP comes out (hopefully soon) it too will offer these criteria.
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Re: Denon 4311 input settings / sub level options...

As far as a pre-pro, it looks like the 5508 might be my least expensive route. I can get one of those for about $1430.

Does any of the Onkyo/Integra units allow separate subwoofer level settings for different inputs?
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Does any of the Onkyo/Integra units allow separate subwoofer level settings for different inputs?
That I don't know, if I get home early enough tonight I will check it out and get back to you.
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Another option to consider is putting a simple single switch attenuator in you sub-out line. It wouldn't be controllable from your remote, but a simple flip of the switch (switching the attenuator out) would get your sub boost. A little inconvenient, but it would work. You could build it in a small Radio shack plastic box with a line in and a line out, and place your switch on the side. How many dB are you wanting to boost or cut your sub by?
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Re: Denon 4311 input settings / sub level options...

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I am afraid the only way to do so would be on the fly. This can be done on 2 Subwoofers. At least on my 3008. Granted, you can engage Intellivolume to add Gain to individual Sources to at least get a bit more engagement.
I am 97% sure about this, I will try to check it out more when I return.
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Re: Denon 4311 input settings / sub level options...

I usually bump it up about 10db. Remote controllable would be better. It's not the end of the world to have to go through the channel level settings, but in this day and time with everything so macro'ized it would seem there would be an easier solution.
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Here's a schematic for a simple two-resistor/switch, 10dB attenuator. It assumes your subs are paralleled and present about a 5k load to the attenuator. If you're using it with a single sub (10k), just double the given resistor values. Note: these are the calculated resistor values - just get the resistor values closest to these from a 1% tolerance table and you should be fine.
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As far as a pre-pro, it looks like the 5508 might be my least expensive route. I can get one of those for about $1430.

Does any of the Onkyo/Integra units allow separate subwoofer level settings for different inputs?
I looked around the menu and did not see any setting that would allow separate subwoofer level settings for different inputs.

I did find that you can adjust the LFE level for different surround formats like Dolby Digital, DTS, Multi-channel PCM, TrueHD, DTS-HD, Audyssey DSX and DSD. Not sure if that really helps out your situation but I thought I would mention it.
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I don't think there is any LFE on CD music or vinyl, except maybe SACD, and then I am not sure. Perhaps someone else may know. Either way I would not want to change it for Dolby across the board because that would effect everything Dolby, including movies.

One option I like about the 5508 is that you can change the subwoofer levels via the Home button on the remote for a particular event and when you power it off it changes back to the default settings. However, if I plan to watch a movie after listening to music, I would have to manually change it back. I don't think changing inputs resets the levels to default.
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For several years now I have always had to adjust the subwoofer levels on my receiver/prepro to make the bass louder for CD music and DVD/BD concerts... or concerts on satellite as well. It seems the bass is always fine for movies. I suppose this is due to the 10db LFE boost encoded in movies. Apparently in DVD/BD concerts this is not encoded... nor is it in CD or vinyl.

I own the Denon 4311 receiver and it is one of the more aggravating receivers when it comes to adjusting sub levels. On others I have merely had to press the Sub Level +/- buttons on the remote to increase or decrease the sub level. On the 4311 I have to press Channel Level, then scroll down to each subwoofer level (I have two subs in my system) and adjust the level of each sub. Then I have to lower it back down for movies. I cannot seem to find a simple resolution to make it easier.

I did just realize the other day that I can set sub levels independently in Stereo mode. So now I don't have the issue when a Stereo signal is playing, such as a music CD or vinyl, so that resolves that part. However, when playing a DVD/BD concert, such as the one I am listening to right now (of course it is Pink Floyd), I still have to increase the sub levels.

I thought maybe I could simply setup another input for 5.1 music, but I cannot select the same video input for two different inputs. When I select HDMI 1 for one input, it won't let me select it for another input, which doesn't make sense.

Perhaps I will use the dual HDMI outputs on the OPPO BD-93... using one for movies and one for music.

Has anyone know of a solution on the 4311 by chance? Thanks!

Hi There

Did you ever find a solution for the 4311CI. I have same issue

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