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post #1 of 17 Old 12-05-12, 08:06 PM Thread Starter
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Harman Kardon or Marantz

Why don't I hear much about H/K or Marantz avr,s? All I hear about is Denon, Onkyo, Pioneer and Yamaha avrs I've own both and they both sound excellent with lots of amp power (headroom). As a matter of fact H/K underrate their amps power. Is my opinion wrong if so, will someone correct me on this? THX in advance
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Re: Harman kardon or Marantz

I'll take a stab at this, for example, the Denon AVR-3313, can be had for around $1100 vs the equivalent Marantz SR7007 would cost you $1800 (Amazon.com). That's $700 extra for essentially the same AVR.

H/K is losing ground feature wise. Unfortunately, today's buyer are more interested in apps, networking ability, fancy GUIs, streaming capabilities and "stuff" like that (I'm not in that group). H/K is behind on those features. Also, H/K's EzSET is not up to par with Audyssey for instance.

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Re: Harman kardon or Marantz

Thank you Yoda, H/K only good for SQ and Marantz are overpriced other than that they're equal to the others!!!
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Re: Harman kardon or Marantz

Any other opinions? Where are all the experts???
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Re: Harman Kardon or Marantz

Moved this thread to the Home Theater Receivers / Processors / Amps forum.


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Re: Harman Kardon or Marantz

Don't forget that you need to speak directly with resellers to get the best price. Often substantial discounts are available. Marantz, for example, does not allow discounted prices to be published publicly.
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Re: Harman Kardon or Marantz

The bottom line is that H/K has not been in the same league as Onkyo, Yamaha or Denon, Yes they do "under rate" their amp sections but still dont have the output that Onkyo has for the same price. Not saying that they are no good but these days price and features is what people look at and Audyssey is much better than EZset.

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Re: Harman Kardon or Marantz

Seems to me these things are cyclical as companies gain and lose talented designers, technological advantages, market share etc. Right now Onkyo seems to be the all around leader, 7 - 8 years ago Denon was at the top of the heap. Back in the late 1970's Harmon Kardon had the excellent Citation series of products and the Marantz model 19 was a great piece of gear in the early 1970's.

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I have a HK receiver that I bought at a severe discount and it treated me well. However, in today's market (and for the last five years frankly) their feature set is just not on par at all to be considered a viable option for the informed consumer. Price for price, their receivers have significantly fewer features and their supposedly underrated amp section does not make up the difference.
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Re: Harman Kardon or Marantz

I bought an H/K AVR 330 back around 2005 and started building he rest of my rig around it for a couple years. I found both the sound and it's power to be more than pleasing. Later I added an Emo LPA-1 amp an continued to use the 330 as a pre/pro. I just sold it to someone on one of the other boards as I recently scooped up a Newcastle R972. The older H/K's are quality equipment. Mine served me well for a lot of years. That said, I agree that they're lacking in the "goodies" department and I've read that their new current line is just not up to snuff compared to the previous generations in regards to sound and amp quality.
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