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post #31 of 74 Old 11-26-09, 09:16 AM
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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

You will be fine running the old speakers for now, just dont push the volume to hard through them.

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post #32 of 74 Old 11-26-09, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

Hi tonyvdb,

I finally found some specs on the satellite speakers on cnet.
"Speakers Included 5 x Satellite speaker - 10 Watt - 150 - 20000 Hz - 6 Ohm - Wired , 1 x Active subwoofer - 25 Watt - 20 - 150 Hz - 3 Ohm - Wired "

You said not to push the volume too hard through them. To clarify, does this mean only turn the volume up to "normal" levels? Meaning how loud they normally sound with it's original receiver/subwoofer? Or even less than that?

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Hi tonyvdb,


You said not to push the volume too hard through them. To clarify, does this mean only turn the volume up to "normal" levels? Meaning how loud they normally sound with it's original receiver/subwoofer?
Yes that is correct.

You may be able to find some really good deals on speakers tomorrow during the Black Friday sales so maybe thats a good place to start.

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900

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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

I know what's it's like to try and hit a tight budget, so here are a couple of items that could be a match to your sub-woofer needs. Of the three sub manufacturers that have been mentioned most in this thread, Outlaw Audio seems to have the best Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. They have the LFM-1 Compact for $339 shipped or the LFM-1 Plus for $467 shipped.

A better sub is always valuable, but you expressed some doubt about spending 40% of your budget on a sub. The Compact would work in your room for non-reference level bass, but the Plus would give you more headroom.

Good Luck!

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post #35 of 74 Old 11-28-09, 09:50 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

Hello Again,

Well, I finally got my first piece of equipment. A new Onkyo SR707.

I'm liking the Outlaw LFM-1 Plus sub that TonyG suggested. So I want to get that.

Now, the question is what to do about the speakers. If I wanted to do bookshelf sized speakers instead of floor speakers (room size limitation), what should I get in the less than $350 shipped category? I'm looking for 5.0 set.

The only ones that seem interesting so far are the Energy Classic 5 pack from Energy's site. $199 shipped. Would those go well with the Onkyo and LFM-1+?

Anyone know of other good deals or suggestions?

Many Thanks (It IS Thanksgiving in the US),
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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

RE: Energy Classic 5 pack... I can't find any from their authorized internet dealers.

I did find them at Newegg, I believe a Non-Authorized internet dealer.

Other suggestions would certainly be welcome. Thanks!

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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

I try not to push too hard when people are making decisions, but I think in your price range that the idea of going with 5 sats is a good one. I also think sats tend to work better in terms of space management in non-dedicated theater rooms. The Take 5s are a great price performer. They need to be crossed over at 100-120hz, so some people think they "localize" the bass when the sub is crossed over that high. There are many happy Take 5 customers, and that price is great.

Another option would be the SVS SBS-01 5.0. On B-Stock, it would be $360 or so delivered (depending on where you live). I suspect this is probably a little less efficient, but you have a reasonably strong amp so that won't be a big issue. The SVS have larger woofers and should be crossed over at 80hz and might be a better match with the Outlaw which goes low and deep. The Energys are smaller, lighter, and therefore less demanding to mount on the wall.

There's always trade offs, and there are a number of reviews on the internet on both systems. You'll need to allow some extra funds for mounting brackets/stands with a sat setup versus floorstanding fronts. Another challenge on the journey to home theater bliss!

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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

Emuc64, Your budget for speakers is going to give you issues with sound quality in the end that you wont be happy with. You would be better off using some old used speakers for the sorround channels and spand you entire budget on just some decent front speakers and a sub for starters. You can get away with phantoming the centre channel to your left and right speakers.
Dont simpy buy speakers for all 5 channels on a very limited budget as all that will get you is unsatifactory results and you will end up replacing them sooner rather than later.

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

Hello,
I could not agree more with Tony. Another huge advantage to purchasing high quality speakers is they will actually hold a good bit of value should you decide to upgrade. Super cheap speakers or HTIB's have next to no resale value.

To be honest the current system I have has been a constant evolution of my first system I purchased as an Undergrad. I started with a pair of Paradigm Monitor 7's. At the time, I had neither a Center Channel or Surrounds, but I had a great pair of speakers.

A year later, I purchased the matching Center Channel and Surrounds. After graduation, I sold all of my Monitor Series Paradigm for a nice sum and put that money towards a pair of Paradigm Reference Studio 100 V.2's. Again, I did not have the funds to buy all of the matching speakers so I held off until I could.
At the time I matched the Studio's, I also started a 2 channel system based around a pair of Martin Logan Aerius i's.

Three years ago, I sold off my Paradigm Reference System for thousands and put the proceeds towards a pair of Martin Logan Vantages. Again, I could not initially afford the 3000 Dollar matching Center Channel (wanted a V8 sports sedan), but I waited and got spectacularly lucky when Sound Advice went out of business and picked up the Stage for 70% off and a pair of Vista's for 70% off. And a few months ago, I finally got a Martin Logan Subwoofer to complete my 5.1 package.

My point in all of this is to back up what Tony is saying and what I always advocate, that is to buy the best you can afford and not give in to buying 5 subpar speakers at once for instant gratification when you could afford one quality pair of speakers instead.
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Re: Another new person to home theater, advice please.

Even to add to this using my setup. I've been using the same speakers since 1992 and still love the sound from them. I payed big bucks (for me anyhow at age 22) for quality speakers and still have no plans to replace them. They would cost at least $2500 to replace just the 7 speakers today with something comparable.
My receiver, display, dvd player, and other components have all been upgraded several times. while still using the same speakers because they were good quality.

Home theater:
Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

Living room system:
Sherwood/Newcastle R972, Mission 765's, SVS SBS02's, A/D/S MS3u sub, Yamaha YDG2030EQ
Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
Panasonic TC-P50ST60, HD-PVR & WDTV Live, Harmony 900

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