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I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go along. But I wanted to give a quick thanks to everyone who chimed in.
Glad to be of help....More questions???...no problem; We're here to learn and to help each other
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VERY good choices for components! I think you did a fantastic job as the others have pointed out on getting an outstanding system and making it work within your budget!!

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Glad to be of help....More questions???...no problem; We're here to learn and to help each other
Hi,

Thanks for encouraging questions. So, here goes: A member previously mentioned running a speaker "hot" so that I can hear dialog from a center speaker. Seeing the efficiencies in the speakers I bought "Sensitivity (anechoic) 85dB Sensitivity (2 speakers in a typical room) 88dB", does this mean... if I need to dial up the volume, that it'll reduce the life of the speaker because it needs to run hotter than a more efficient speaker?

Too many words let me try this again. Will using a higher wattage, due to my speakers inefficiency, reduce it's life?

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You are only raising the level on the amplifier channel. Life of the speaker should not be affected unless playing at super high level which causes the receiver's amplifier to go into clipping.

When you raise the level on a speaker channel, it can change what the maximum volume level is. It should be quite uncommon to playback above Reference Level (0 Db) on a THX Processor/Receiver Instead of +15, it might be +10. Not citing a specific model of receiver just throwing a number out there.

Raising the Center Channel level can increase dialogue volume in quiet, atmospheric movies. Or ones where the Center Channel Surround mix is recorded too soft or quiet. Should have no adverse effects.
It is common where the Center Channel level is raised and in fact, you can temporarily raise the level and it not change the calibrated settings. Often, power cycling will result in the Center Channel level being set at calibrated level.
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...in fact, you can temporarily raise the level and it not change the calibrated settings.
Hello,

Pardon my inexperience in this. Umm... How do I temporarily change the level? If I go to the center speaker selection and raise the db, wouldn't that take as the new calibrated settings? If my receiver had profiles I can set, that's how it would know to revert back to calibrated settings, right? Otherwise, how?

I've not hooked up my receiver yet and well, I can only get so far with the manual just visualizing until my brain hurts. I'm better at playing around with settings WHILE looking at the manual at the same time.

Okay, thanks for any clarification.
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Hello,
At least on my Onkyo, press Channel Select and the level + button to raise the level after choosing Center Channel (each speaker including subwoofer shows up)
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1) If I were to find that dialog through a center speaker were not very clear, would turning up the volume on the center speaker only (assuming you can do that) be the only way to hear dialog?
This is one reason responders have tried to gently push you towards expanding your budget a little. Often lack of clarity is caused by lack of speaker quality. Turning up the volume doesn't bring clarity, it just makes bad sound louder.

SVS is having a great sale on their bookshelf speakers. A 5.0 set is $200 off, at just $399. Throw in a PB-10 NSD and for $800 you'll have a great sound 5.1 system. That will leave you enough to buy a nice receiver.

I have Ascends and an SVS PB-12 NSD. The Ascends are great, but would bust your budget. I've measured my PB-12 NSD in my home theater and it's flat from 17-80hz. It will literally shake the walls even at moderate volume!
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This statement is not factual, most speaker manufacturers clearly state in there manuals that come with the speakers that break in is going to change the sound over the first few weeks of use.
It actually is factual from a mechanical perspective.

http://www.audioholics.com/education...act-or-fiction is good overview.

Manufacturers include this so people won't return their speakers. The first few weeks are the adjustment period to new speaker's defects. But there aren't perfect speakers(B&W 802's get close)
so it's to expected.
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Hello,

Many thanks to (in order of appearance) Jungle Jack, tonyvdb, selden, salvasol, lsiberian, and TonyG. Thanks to all of your input, advice, and time spent on replying, I've managed to put in the order for my new system. It's no $50,000 home theater system, but I think you've all helped me get something much better than a HTiB.

Onkyo SR707 - $477
Outlaw LFM-1 Plus - $467
5x Energy C-50 - $222.50
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Total Out the Door (incl. shipping, taxes, etc.) - $1166.50

Yes, kept it under my original $1200 budget!! Whew!

Now, I'm excited to get everything in. I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go along. But I wanted to give a quick thanks to everyone who chimed in.

Sincerely,
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Well done. I think you will really enjoy that setup for years to come. If you don't and get the upgrade bug. You know where to come.
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Well done. I think you will really enjoy that setup for years to come. If you don't and get the upgrade bug. You know where to come.
Hi,

Again, itís thanks to everyone here that I got something that works well with my budget. My current salary and wallet will assure me that Iím immunized from the upgrade bug. For now.

After I get married and a house, then weíll see about how everything will sound in a new room. Iíll definitely come here for more sound advice.

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