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post #11 of 42 Old 07-23-12, 02:31 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Living room setup advice appreciated

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Congratulations on the Condo. For $5000, we can help you put together a stellar HT. While I do think Polk makes a quality Speaker, I would personally sell them and put the proceeds towards the project.

As hjones pointed out, Ambient Light must be hugely attenuated for a Projector to operate properly. Otherwise, the Picture will be completely washed out during any Daytime Viewing such as watching NCAA/NFL Games on the Weekend.

If you have a space that can be made completely dark, Projectors are just an amazing experience and after watching a 100" Screen at home, it is next to impossible to be happy with anything else.

That being said, a Projector and Retractable Screen is going to represent a very large amount of your budget.

If Ambient Light is an issue, Mitsubishi's DLP Microdisplays are quite cost effective and work great in Rooms where light is an issue. For instance, for $1899 you can get a 3D 73 inch Mitsubishi Diamond from Best Buy that is actually sold at their upscale Magnolia Home Theater Area:http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mitsubis...ishi&cp=2&lp=1

Truth be told, if purchased Online you could get that TV for even less. Also, Mitsubishi makes a 92 Inch Microdisplay as well, but it would eat up too much of your budget. However, it might be possible for find a 2011 92 Inch Mitsubishi heavily discounted Online. Another great thing about Mitsubishi is they only charge $99 for a Replacement Lamp whereas many Projector Lamps cost close to $300.

Regardless of which direction you decide to go, we will do everything possible to help you.
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Okay after reading your suggestions, I'm thinking that the Mitsubishi 92" seems pretty good (and not too expensive - I hadn't looked into rear projection tvs at all before this, didn't even think I could get a 92" tv for < 3k); it'll actually fit inside that wall cavity in the living room too!

This obviously leads me to my next question though - audio.

JJ mentioned that I should consider selling my Polk CS2 center channel and PSW10 subwoofer and try getting something else? I actually have an old Denon AVR-789 receiver that I'm already planning on switching.

Would it be possible to give me some suggestions for speakers (for a 7.1 system, either swapping the Polks or no) + receiver? Speaker placement suggestions would also be really helpful - if I decide to put the tv in the wall cavity, everything is kind of off center, and one side of the room does open to another, so I'm not sure where exactly to place the fronts + surrounds.

Thanks so much everyone!

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post #12 of 42 Old 07-27-12, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
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After bugging JJ a little, I think I've decided on grabbing the SVS SBS-02 speaker deal. I did some more research, and it seems like a great bang for the buck choice. I'm leaning towards a 7.1 system, so 3 pairs of the SBS-02s (or should I choose something else for the mains?) + an SCS-02 center, with a HSU Research VTF-2 MKIV subwoofer.

Would it be possible to give me some advice on receiver choice? It seems like lots of people like the Onkyo Tx-NR709, but I was just wondering if there were other good alternatives?
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Re: Living room setup advice appreciated

Brother, it was my pleasure to help in any way possible and certainly did not think of your PM as being "bugged". It is truly what I am here for. While I always prefer ideally to share insights with and for all Members, we are here to help.
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Brother, it was my pleasure to help in any way possible and certainly did not think of your PM as being "bugged". It is truly what I am here for. While I always prefer ideally to share insights with and for all Members, we are here to help.
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JJ, you have really been extremely helpful (ALMFamily for dissuading me from the projector/screen combo too) - there is just so much information out there, and just from looking at popular review sites and Amazon, I would never have found the mitsubishi tv and svs speakers.

Since the svs deal may end, I'll probably get those soon (just have to figure out the 5 vs 7 thing), and I'll keep researching + asking around for receiver advice. How do you know if a certain receiver is good for certain speakers (other than checking the ohms)?
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Considering the prices, it certainly cannot hurt to purchase another pair of SBS-02's. Worst case, you set them up in a Bedroom System. I simply cannot overstate the value of these SVS's at $150 a pair. Moreover, I would make sure you get an Audyssey DSX AVR and put the 6/7 Channels in the Front as either Height or Width Channels. I have honestly been more impressed with H/W Speakers than I have additional Rear Surrounds. DTS NEO:X and Dolby PLIIz offer a similar implementation of Height Channels and Neo supports up to 11.4.
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As far as a receiver, you really can't go wrong with any of the biggies (Onkyo, Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Pioneer) - it comes down to what things are important to you such as:

- Airplay?
- Video processing
- Amplification
- Ease of use of the calibration software

The Onkyo's claim to fame is going to be the amount of extras are included at their price point as well as an amplification section that has bench tested very well. The others have Airplay and, as some have observed, a more "musical" sound.

I have heard that Audessey is the easiest software to use, so I would personally lean toward a Denon, Onkyo, and Marantz. The other units are good as well, just a bit less user-friendly.


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Considering the prices, it certainly cannot hurt to purchase another pair of SBS-02's. Worst case, you set them up in a Bedroom System. I simply cannot overstate the value of these SVS's at $150 a pair. Moreover, I would make sure you get an Audyssey DSX AVR and put the 6/7 Channels in the Front as either Height or Width Channels. I have honestly been more impressed with H/W Speakers than I have additional Rear Surrounds. DTS NEO:X and Dolby PLIIz offer a similar implementation of Height Channels and Neo supports up to 11.4.
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As far as a receiver, you really can't go wrong with any of the biggies (Onkyo, Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Pioneer) - it comes down to what things are important to you such as:

- Airplay?
- Video processing
- Amplification
- Ease of use of the calibration software

The Onkyo's claim to fame is going to be the amount of extras are included at their price point as well as an amplification section that has bench tested very well. The others have Airplay and, as some have observed, a more "musical" sound.

I have heard that Audessey is the easiest software to use, so I would personally lean toward a Denon, Onkyo, and Marantz. The other units are good as well, just a bit less user-friendly.
Hmm okay - I checked the Audyssey DSX website, and it suggests width over height channels. However, the shape of my living room (floor plan in first post) is not very conducive to adding width channels, since there is no wall on the right... If I put the tv in the wall cavity, I barely have space for the two front channels on the sides of the tv. Putting wide channels at a different height doesn't make sense at all, right?

While everyone seems to love the extra width channels, there doesn't seem to be a consensus on the height - JJ, do you like height channels better than additional rear surrounds?

Thanks ALM! In terms of receivers, I think I'm leaning more towards the Marantz SR6006 or Denon AVR3312CI. They seem to have pretty good reviews, especially the Marantz - do you guys think that would be a good choice?
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Having never owned a Marantz, I cannot say for certain. If you would like, I know that Ty (TypeA) is a Marantz owner and could give you an owner's perspective. I can tell you that he has his coupled with an Emotiva amp and raves about the combo.


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I would actually go with Height Speakers before Width Speakers. Certainly a personal preference/observation, but is the way I would go.

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I would actually go with Height Speakers before Width Speakers. Certainly a personal preference/observation, but is the way I would go.
I'll trust your judgment haha - height speakers will definitely be much easier in terms of speaker placement for me.

So based on all your wonderful suggestions, here's my list:

Display: Mitsubishi WD-92840 92" 3d projection tv (~$2,700)

Audio:
Fronts/Rears/Heights: SVS SBS-02 x 3 pairs (~$450)
Center: SVS SCS-02 (~$100)
Subwoofer: HSU VTF-2 MK4 (~$585 w/ shipping)
Receiver: temporarily Marantz SR6006 (~$870)

Amazingly, this comes out to around $4705 (even with some small rounding up), which is still around $300 less than my $5000 budget! And this is not accounting for whatever cash I'll be able get for selling my old Denon AVR-789, Polk CS2, and Polk PSW10 - I was thinking hopefully around $200 for all 3 things, which would give me around $500 extra. Obviously, I could just count all of this as "savings," but I was wondering if anyone had some more ideas about small upgrades that would be good (if there's anything that would help make a difference with spending a little more). Thanks everyone!!!!
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