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View Poll Results: Which of these is the best choice FOR ME?
MartinLogan MLT-2 5.1 Channel Home Theater Speaker System - $299 6 54.55%
Pioneer SP-PK21BS 5.1 system w/ BS21's for L/R - $300 0 0%
Pioneer SP-PK21BS 5.1 system w/ BS41's for L/R - $320 5 45.45%
Energy Take Classic 5.1 system w/ Energy ESW-8 sub - Probably mid $300's or more 0 0%
Energy Take Classic 5.1 system w/ Dayton SUB-100 - $248 0 0%
Energy Take Classic 5.1 system w/ Dayton SUB-120 - $274 0 0%
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post #11 of 37 Old 10-25-12, 01:02 AM Thread Starter
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...The Pioneer sub does not have a lot of high SPL
however, it has been measured down to 29hz.

My choice is the Pioneer with the BS41 bookshelf speakers, and it has a
good center channel speaker >> The BS41 will have nice bass for its size.
You can always save for a bigger subwoofer >> and use the Pioneer sub
for now.
What about using one of the Dayton subs with the Pioneer set instead of the matching Pioneer sub? I would be buying the sub separately either way and they are pretty much the same price. Would one of the previously mentioned Dayton subs match well with that system? Also, that wouldn't pose a connection issue, right?
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post #12 of 37 Old 10-25-12, 02:24 AM
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What about using one of the Dayton subs with the Pioneer set instead of the matching Pioneer sub? I would be buying the sub separately either way and they are pretty much the same price. Would one of the previously mentioned Dayton subs match well with that system? Also, that wouldn't pose a connection issue, right?
I have not listened to the Dayton sub - and I do not get excited over
Parts Express online reviews. However, I expect them to sound a little
better than some old RadioShack subwoofers. At the price, it can not
hurt to try > if you buy one, then get the 12 inch one. Hook-up should
not be a problem.

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I'd go option 1 or 2. Based on your concerns about reliability, probably 2 first.... Go as big as possible.

I would, personally, avoid 3. I've heard heard that set-up and it I thought it sounded, well, pretty bad.
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... don't [the 309 and 609] both feature the Audyssey EQ?
I searched the manual for the 309 and there's no mention of Audyssey. I agree with the previous comments that the 609 is worth the extra money if you can afford it.

Re. the 5.1 system: My vote goes to the "Pioneer SP-PK21BS 5.1 system w/ BS41's for L/R".

I don't think any of the subs listed will be particularly impressive, but as long as your AVR and speakers are decent, at least you'll only need to replace/upgrade one item in your set-up.

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I'm concurring with the Pioneer rig, also with the larger front speakers. You gain an extra decibel of sensitivity plus higher power handling for only $20, that's an easy choice. Stereophile magazine rated those exact speakers and said that despite the low price there were no compromises made in the sound quality - they are 'a faithful transducer of music' so long as you don't expect them to break the laws of physics. That's an enormously strong recommendation from that venerable periodical.

I gave the 2012 version a try, bringing home a pair of the bookshelf models and I found them to be profoundly good for the money. Transparency is the key word. From what I have heard, the SQ is very similar but the newer models are more efficient. The efficiency boost was easy to confirm, the new models have a 2-3db advantage on the old ones.
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...Oh. I compared them and I failed to notice the THX cert. Really, I put all the listed specs and features in side-by-side windows and I didn't really see any differences. I was having trouble understanding what separated the two. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they both feature the Audyssey EQ?
Of the two only the 609 has Audyssey EQ2. Like I said earlier, THX certification gives you some very useful processing modes that are not useless like many that come with receivers these days. The 609 also has a little more power and if I remember right more HDMI inputs.

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Re: 5.1 System Poll

I am not completely sure why the need for an additional thread about the same questions. The Primus P363 from Fry's that Jerry pointed out would be absurdly better than using a HTIB. However, it seems like it is 5.1 or bust.

Especially when using a Front Projector Setup, to consider using HTIB's like the Energy Take 5 is really going to be pretty underwhelming. At $220, the P363's are simply fantastic and will provide quality bass. I wish you well in your decision and hope it provides you with years of enjoyment.

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I'll chime in and say I concur. With HTIB you flirt with 'buy cheap, buy twice' whereas investing in a good pair of mains is a great starting point one can build off of. The effect you can achieve with just a pair of decent speakers should not be underestimated. Well-positioned, high quality mains can/do produce a convincing 3D soundfield and are a perfectly legitimate way to watch movies.

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I am not completely sure why the need for an additional thread about the same questions. The Primus P363 from Fry's that Jerry pointed out would be absurdly better than using a HTIB. However, it seems like it is 5.1 or bust.

Especially when using a Front Projector Setup, to consider using HTIB's like the Energy Take 5 is really going to be pretty underwhelming. At $220, the P363's are simply fantastic and will provide quality bass. I wish you well in your decision and hope it provides you with years of enjoyment.
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I searched the manual for the 309 and there's no mention of Audyssey. I agree with the previous comments that the 609 is worth the extra money if you can afford it.

Re. the 5.1 system: My vote goes to the "Pioneer SP-PK21BS 5.1 system w/ BS41's for L/R".

I don't think any of the subs listed will be particularly impressive, but as long as your AVR and speakers are decent, at least you'll only need to replace/upgrade one item in your set-up.
I misspoke. I meant the 360, not the 309. I thought the 360 had Audyssey.
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I misspoke. I meant the 360, not the 309. I thought the 360 had Audyssey.
Yes, according to the owner's manual the 360 has Audyssey's:
- basic 2EQ auto-EQ solution (performs basic auto-calibration functions);
- Dynamic EQ (adjusts equalization based on volume); and
- Dynamic Volume (minimizes volume variations within a given audio stream or when switching between different audio streams).
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