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post #11 of 34 Old 06-07-13, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Denon 2809

Greg, I am not sure what you are talking about changes? Like connecting an amp? The 2809ci I have is a refurb. I have not used it much as I was involved in a move and hooked it temp after a year and a half. I have since moved it into the back tv room and it powers some cheap sony's. Just to get some tv and radio sound. I like the idea of the 3313ci, if it could drive the deftec's properly. The reason I was considering the 4520ci is because of the great write up from one of your great audio guys. Forget his name. It was recently?? Denon has 3 refurbs for $1500. But I don't need the extras? Just the power. On a budget.
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Classe' is much more practical and reviewers speak highly. You are right about Krell it takes $$$ to own one, but for $2500 you can own a two channel 150 into 8ohms 300 into 4ohm (true wattage) integrated. For $7500 you can buy the Krell TAS a five channel amp 200w per. I've read of comparisons with Mark Levinson No.433 or a newer one I don't remember. Krell still the better review. We will never know unless we try. One day I will own a Krell. Maybe a small 2 channel amp I'll plug into my Denon Pre out (probably a used amp).

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Is 125W enough to drive the Deftecs for a clean and natural sound, and AC/DC, Judas Priest and such? With out shutting down.
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Also, what is the advantage of 8ohm speakers vs 4 ohm?
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Normally 4Ohm speakers have more than one driver and a tweeter. This usually means a fuller sound. Bookshelves will generally be 8Ohm
a 4ohm speaker needs less power to get loud (the lower the number the closer to a short it is) but because of the lower ohm's it will run the amps hotter.

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Classe' is much more practical and reviewers speak highly. You are right about Krell it takes $$$ to own one, but for $2500 you can own a two channel 150 into 8ohms 300 into 4ohm (true wattage) integrated. For $7500 you can buy the Krell TAS a five channel amp 200w per. I've read of comparisons with Mark Levinson No.433 or a newer one I don't remember. Krell still the better review. We will never know unless we try. One day I will own a Krell. Maybe a small 2 channel amp I'll plug into my Denon Pre out (probably a used amp).
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Thank you guys for all the info. I think I am going to go with the 3313ci refurb. and if I need a litttle more I will go with Tony's suggestion of the Emotiva. Refurb from Denon factory is $699, and from Accessories4Less $629. Probably best to get it direct from Denon?
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Does anyone know of a promo code for Denon I can use to get a discount on the 3313ci refurb?
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Your current Denon AVR 2809CI is a little underpowered Bench tested it will do about 95watts into two channels and it drops from there as you run more. You might just be better off investing in an external two channel amp like the Emotiva XPA 200
I like the idea of an external amp as I ran a couple different Emotiva's with a 2809 with good results (an old LPA-1 and an XPA-5). Can I ask where you found the bench-testing numbers on the 2809?
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Re: Denon 2809

Most bench test results can be found here but they have not done a review of the 2809 that I found however Ive read enough reviews of comparable Denon's and other brands to know that a receiver that weighs 28lbs is not going to output more than about 80Watts per channel all channels driven.

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