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09-29-14 09:06 AM
typ44q
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

I hate to resurrect an old thread from the dead but I was wondering if the OP ever sent his unit in for repair of the sticking drawer problem. I had a BDP-83 that I sold to a friend and he is now experiencing this problem. Was curious about what was done and the cost of the repairs.
12-09-12 05:23 PM
Osage_Winter
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

Thanks...
12-09-12 12:59 PM
bguzman
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

I own an 83 and am aware of the documented drawer issues and lean towards that theory. However thanks to HDMI and all the stuff that goes on with it, you never know. Good luck sir.
12-03-12 12:31 AM
Osage_Winter
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

Here is OPPO's latest reply to me:

We have had to upgrade our Integra DTC-9.8 (same generation as your 605) several times to fix issues related to HDMI handshakes, so even if the issues did not exhibit themselves in the past, it is still possible that your issues are related to out of date firmware.

HDMI cables can just all of a sudden become incompatible with a device. In our own projector configuration we have replaced several long cable runs because the cable all of a sudden just no longer accepts high bandwidth signals such as 1080p. This is why the first diagnostic we recommend to customers is to replace the HDMI cable between the player and the receiver; receiver and the display. Most handshaking errors are due to bad cables rather than defective hardware.

We generally recommend making sure that the receiver and the display are fully on and operating on their proper inputs, then switching on the player. It should not be required, but the handshakes can be more accurate when turning on the player absolutely last.

Pressing the button hard for an extended period of time can cause errors as there may be a loss of pressure, which will cause the player to think that a new command was issued. A strong, brief press should not produce these errors, however.


12-01-12 01:56 AM
Osage_Winter
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

I haven't had a chance to respond to OPPO's last reply to me, but when I do, I will report back with any further analysis they may have...
12-01-12 01:55 AM
Osage_Winter
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

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tonyvdb wrote: View Post
Unless you unplug them or move them around alot I highly doubt it.
I don't unplug them or move them around a lot -- HOWEVER, due to the constraints of the cabinet the AVR and BD player are in, the cable leads in back are a bit tight fitting and seem to be pulling on the HDMI ports, the last I checked...something MAY be loose back there, or the prongs of the ports may be breaking...what's weird is that this issue has only happened twice and it has been relegated to just DVD playback -- not Blu-ray. This is more than likely sheer coincidence, but I am just pointing it out...

OPPO is suggesting that cables can go bad -- but if they're not aggressively being manipulated, as you suggest Tony, they should just simply last and do their job nearly indefinitely, no?
12-01-12 01:51 AM
Osage_Winter
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

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Infrasonic wrote: View Post
I think they are basically saying it's a handshake issue with the Onkyo which I don't think is very surprising, I have seen countless issues from Onkyo owners regarding similar issues and if that's the case it would be a hardware issue not firmware. I would try a different HDMI input on the Onkyo.
Thanks Infra...

It's the strangest thing, this phenomenon, because it happens every so often, and not routinely -- plus, strangely enough, it has only happened on DVD playback, not Blu-ray...

Here's what happens, once again: The disc drawer shuts, the player, receiver and display begin doing the HDMI handshaking, and instead of the receiver "locking on" to a bitstreamed signal from the player (i.e. indicating a "Dolby Digital" stream), the receiver indicates it's getting a PCM already-decoded signal from the player -- very odd, because in the BDP-83, under Audio Setup, I have "HDMI Audio" set to BITSTREAM, so this should not happen EVER.

This issue has only happened with two titles thus far, to be honest -- but they both happened to be, ironically enough, Warner Bros. DVD titles: the original House of Wax (with Vincent Price) played back during this past Halloween season, and Vegas Vacation. With House of Wax, in particular, this disc carries a two-channel surround track, so when my gear is done with all the HDMI handshaking, the soundtrack upon playback is decoded by my Onkyo via its Pro Logic II Movie mode (for two-channel film soundtrack sources) -- normally, the small orange "Dolby Digital" indicator lights up in this mode, with the "PLII Movie" indicator showing the listening mode in larger font on the display...with the last problem I had regarding this title, the orange Dolby Digital indicator DID NOT come on, and the AVR was indicating the PLAYER was doing the decoding via a PCM stream...

VERY strange, as I said...
11-29-12 06:44 PM
tonyvdb
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

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Osage_Winter wrote: View Post
Could it possibly be my HDMI cables are going bad?
Unless you unplug them or move them around alot I highly doubt it.
11-29-12 05:50 PM
Osage_Winter
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

Thanks Guys,

I appreciate the input...

Here's the latest reply from them:

Ensure that your receiver has the latest firmware release installed. All receivers can be firmware upgraded, some at your house while others need to be sent to the manufacturer. It is very possible that your handshaking errors are due to the receiver using an older firmware release.

Cables can go bad. The easiest way to test if the cable is the issue is to try an alternative cable between the player and the receiver; receiver and the display. You do not need expensive cables, as with HDMI the signal is either there or it is not.

Ensure that you are turning on your television, then the receiver, switching their inputs, then turning on the player to maximize your handshaking accuracies.

If you are accidentally issuing the EJECT command twice, or there is a collision of the command, this is possible. Try using the front EJECT button instead of the remote button (or the reverse if you are using the front panel button) and see if there is a difference.


Could it possibly be my HDMI cables are going bad?
11-29-12 05:19 PM
Infrasonic
Re: BDP-83 (Oppo) Owners: Did This Ever Happen to You?

True, handshake issues can be had with any brand but it seems to be a bit more prevalent with Onkyo. They make by far the best bang for the buck receivers but I think some corners have to be cut to get there.
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