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03-20-19 12:32 AM
ellisr63
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

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RTS100x5 wrote: View Post
What a well read review Wayne - Thank you so much for the time and effort.. I've had my unit now for about a year and half and I absolutely cannot listen to my system without it...
For those considering EMOTIVA - WARNING - please read the forums at Emotiva as they are having (from what I read) some serious technical issues with XMC and RMC avr's and at that price range , I can't even imagine how those products are on the market.... and I have the XPA7 amp in my system and LOVE IT !!!
For those less technically inclined I would not recommend this unit - the setup (especially making XLR to phoenix connections is a challenge) will tax you if your less than patient...That said - once your unit IS INSTALLED - the Dirac Calibration is not complex but is tedious....and as with all room correction will take several hours if not many sessions to get the right EQ curves and measurements that suit you ...
It cannot be overstated how versatile this unit and software is. I have memory presets for MOVIE - MUSIC - Multiple mic position and Single Mic position - all of which have unique PEQ and level settings .
But once you have this unit on the right trac its absolutely addictive... It's also worth mentioning that I recently had to send my unit in because the USB port suddenly stopped working - but MiniDSP fixed it right away... Their Customer Service is excellent !!
Instead of calling it a "Value Multiplier" I call it my Secret Weapon : ) So if your looking for the next level (not attainable w Audessy xt32) Dirac Live is the answer...
On the current models you can order a XLR kit for it so you do not need to make the adapter cables. I sold both of my boxes, and now regret it as Dirac is the best. I most likely will get the new Monoprice preamp with Dirac built in to replace them.
03-11-19 01:43 PM
RTS100x5
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

What a well read review Wayne - Thank you so much for the time and effort.. I've had my unit now for about a year and half and I absolutely cannot listen to my system without it...
For those considering EMOTIVA - WARNING - please read the forums at Emotiva as they are having (from what I read) some serious technical issues with XMC and RMC avr's and at that price range , I can't even imagine how those products are on the market.... and I have the XPA7 amp in my system and LOVE IT !!!
For those less technically inclined I would not recommend this unit - the setup (especially making XLR to phoenix connections is a challenge) will tax you if your less than patient...That said - once your unit IS INSTALLED - the Dirac Calibration is not complex but is tedious....and as with all room correction will take several hours if not many sessions to get the right EQ curves and measurements that suit you ...
It cannot be overstated how versatile this unit and software is. I have memory presets for MOVIE - MUSIC - Multiple mic position and Single Mic position - all of which have unique PEQ and level settings .
But once you have this unit on the right trac its absolutely addictive... It's also worth mentioning that I recently had to send my unit in because the USB port suddenly stopped working - but MiniDSP fixed it right away... Their Customer Service is excellent !!
Instead of calling it a "Value Multiplier" I call it my Secret Weapon : ) So if your looking for the next level (not attainable w Audessy xt32) Dirac Live is the answer...
11-01-16 12:52 PM
typ44q
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

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AudiocRaver wrote: View Post
That experience would be invaluable. And if done properly, you would feel incomplete until you had Dirac in your own setup.



The Make A Measurement box should only allow for a measurement sweep, not sure where you got the option for pink noise.



The full version of Dirac on the XMC-1 should be the same as with the DDRC-88BM. The DDRC-88BM has the advantage of showing the gain and delay adjustments made by Dirac. and gives the opportunity to change them if needed in the output stage. That is a VERY fine point, but it does give the 88BM a VERY slight edge.

I have not gotten my hands dirty working with an XMC-1 yet, but have heard the result in tesseract's system, and was VERY impressed.

If you have any leanings toward the XMC-1, go with it. I lean toward the 88BM for tweakability, but there is alot more to consider with it.
Thanks, I will have to take a long hard look when it actually comes time to make my purchase. I wonder if Dirac in the XMC1 will extend to the Atmos channels once it becomes available?
I do like the idea that I can use the 88BM with my existing equipment making the cost a little easier to handle.
10-28-16 06:00 PM
AudiocRaver
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

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Cal68 wrote: View Post
I live in Maryland, about 25 miles North of Washington DC. I do not know if anyone in my area has the miniDSP set up and would be willing to give me an in house demo and tutorial. I'd be more than happy to drive 50-60 miles if required. It would be so much more informative and educational to see the system in use and understand how one sets it up and calibrates it.

Cal68
That experience would be invaluable. And if done properly, you would feel incomplete until you had Dirac in your own setup.

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Cal68 wrote: View Post
When I used REW and my UMIK-1 microphone to try and map the subwoofer set-up in my home theater, I got to a point where the REW program is ready to send out a signal to my sub. At that point a pop-up appears and I need to click a button to send the signal out of my computer to the sub. There is a drop down menu in that pop-up where one can choose to send either a Pink Noise or Sine Wave signal to the sub and I was choosing Pink Noise. I will choose the Sine Wave option the next time I use REW.

I hope my explanation helps. If not, I will update it with more details the next time I use REW because then I will be able to specify exactly which pop-up box I am referring to.Cal68
The Make A Measurement box should only allow for a measurement sweep, not sure where you got the option for pink noise.

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typ44q wrote: View Post
Firstly, thanks for the excellent review!
I have been looking at the Emotiva XMC1 for a while now solely because it has Dirac Live so it is nice to see it offered as a stand alone unit. Do you happen to know the differences , if any between the minidsp version and what is included in the xmc1?
The full version of Dirac on the XMC-1 should be the same as with the DDRC-88BM. The DDRC-88BM has the advantage of showing the gain and delay adjustments made by Dirac. and gives the opportunity to change them if needed in the output stage. That is a VERY fine point, but it does give the 88BM a VERY slight edge.

I have not gotten my hands dirty working with an XMC-1 yet, but have heard the result in tesseract's system, and was VERY impressed.

If you have any leanings toward the XMC-1, go with it. I lean toward the 88BM for tweakability, but there is alot more to consider with it.
10-28-16 02:02 PM
typ44q
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

Firstly, thanks for the excellent review!
I have been looking at the Emotiva XMC1 for a while now solely because it has Dirac Live so it is nice to see it offered as a stand alone unit. Do you happen to know the differences , if any between the minidsp version and what is included in the xmc1?
10-07-16 10:36 AM
Cal68
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

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AudiocRaver wrote: View Post
Just curious about the context here. I do a lot of jumping back & forth, and could probably clarify a bit on the matter. Can you describe what you are doing with what waveform?
When I used REW and my UMIK-1 microphone to try and map the subwoofer set-up in my home theater, I got to a point where the REW program is ready to send out a signal to my sub. At that point a pop-up appears and I need to click a button to send the signal out of my computer to the sub. There is a drop down menu in that pop-up where one can choose to send either a Pink Noise or Sine Wave signal to the sub and I was choosing Pink Noise. I will choose the Sine Wave option the next time I use REW.

I hope my explanation helps. If not, I will update it with more details the next time I use REW because then I will be able to specify exactly which pop-up box I am referring to.

Thanks for your help.

Cal68
10-07-16 10:30 AM
Cal68
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

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AudiocRaver wrote: View Post
I totally hear you. Finding the right balance between brevity and detail, and digging into the right detail, is not an easy matter. My musings are not always newbie friendly, not always friendly for any audience, pics and diagrams help but take a lot of time. My approach tends to be to chunk it into categories. For instance, HDMI stuff is mainly all in one guide. Speaker setup in another. I am trying to get more organized about such things. Let us know what areas you need more clarification in.

BTW what is your home city?
I live in Maryland, about 25 miles North of Washington DC. I do not know if anyone in my area has the miniDSP set up and would be willing to give me an in house demo and tutorial. I'd be more than happy to drive 50-60 miles if required. It would be so much more informative and educational to see the system in use and understand how one sets it up and calibrates it.

Cal68
10-06-16 07:13 PM
AudiocRaver I am not sure, I will have to check it out.
10-06-16 01:32 PM
FargateOne
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

Dear Audiocarver,

Thank you so much for this review. Among others, I really appreciate your comparison with NanoAvr-DL.

I totally agree with:

"Both miniDSP and Dirac Research have online guides and user support available. But a one-stop, start-to-finish detailed guide would be nice, and none of the guides I looked at contained the details I would have needed."

At this price level, we would deserve a very well detailed guide.

A question. Is the following statement also applies to nanoAvr-DL?

"When I started out with the 5.1 setting, the DL calibrations always ended up with that 10 dB loss in all of the channels but the LFE channel and the net 10 dB loss in overall volume. But the Custom configuration, with the subwoofer box unchecked always set the channel gains with no compensation for LFE level, assuming that will be done elsewhere. In my case, I let the Onkyo AVR take care of that boost. The result? All channel gains were equal in the 88BM, exactly what I wanted."

In other words with nanoAvr-DL, would you recommand to choose custom configuration (DL is before the AVR) knowing that the sweep comes from the laptop through Nano to the receiver?
10-05-16 10:36 AM
AudiocRaver
Re: Review Discussion Thread: miniDSP DDRC-88BM 8-Channel Dirac Live Processor With Bass Management

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Cal68 wrote: View Post
...I have been using Pink Noise with REW/UMIK-1 instead of the Sine Wave...
Just curious about the context here. I do a lot of jumping back & forth, and could probably clarify a bit on the matter. Can you describe what you are doing with what waveform?
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