Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com - Reply to Topic

Thread: Should adding a preamp make my system louder at -20db? Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now




PLEASE COMPLETE ALL REQUIRED FIELDS BELOW... THANKS!

REQUIRED FIELDS ON THIS PAGE
YOU MUST COMPLETE ALL OF THESE

Username
Password
Confirm Password
Email Address
Confirm Email Address
Random Question
Random Question #2




User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
PLEASE READ BELOW PRIOR TO ENTERING AN EMAIL ADDRESS!

ATTENTION!

YOU MUST ACTIVATE YOUR ACCOUNT!

Activation requires you reply to an email we will send you after you register... if you do not reply to this email, you will not be able to view certain areas of the forum or certain images... nor will you be able download software.

AN INVALID EMAIL ADDRESS WILL CAUSE YOUR ACCOUNT TO BE DELETED!

See our banned email list here: Banned Email List

We DO NOT respond to spamcop, boxtrapper and spamblocker emails... please add @hometheatershack DOT com to your whitelist prior to registering or you will get nowhere on your registration.


Email Address:
OR

Log-in










  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

  Topic Review (Newest First)
06-09-18 09:26 PM
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
Re: Should adding a preamp make my system louder at -20db?

People automatically assume that an amp with more power will be louder at every former volume setting. This isn’t necessarily the case. If the amplifier section of the integrated amp, and the new outboard amp, have about the same input sensitivity, then they will both play at the same level at the same volume control setting. The difference will be when you crank it up. The higher-powered amp will have more headroom before clipping. At 4 ohms the ATI has a bit more than double the power of the Anthem, which really only gives a few dB more headroom.

A change in output level (one way or the other) relative to the pre-amp volume control setting will only happen if the new amp has a lower or higher input sensitivity.

Regards,
Wayne
06-08-18 10:08 AM
RobbyAce
Re: Should adding a preamp make my system louder at -20db?

"I expected the SPL coming out of the speaker to be higher" is subjective so it's difficult to make an assessment by that I'm afraid".

Yup, it would be tough to even come up with an estimate for that.
06-07-18 08:20 AM
theJman
Re: Should adding a preamp make my system louder at -20db?

I use the M6's in my system so I'm very familiar with them.

XTZ lists the Nominal Impedance as 4-8 ohms without saying what load is where in the range. For the sake of argument let's assume average is 6 ohms which is not a very heavy load. Sensitivity is 89dB, so combined with a 6 ohm impedance it shouldn't take much power to drive them. My AVR is 80 watts per channel (discrete) and it does a pretty good job, even when I push the volume.

"I expected the SPL coming out of the speaker to be higher" is subjective so it's difficult to make an assessment by that I'm afraid. How loud you listen, seating distance from the speakers, what type of room EQ has been applied and your personal preferences all come into play. What happens if the MV is -15 or -10, do the speakers get louder and sound OK still?
06-07-18 07:44 AM
superpoppa
Should adding a preamp make my system louder at -20db?

I have an Anthem mrx520 powering my 5.2 setup. When listening to movies at -20db the speakers sounded fine but was worried to drive my 4ohm speakers any harder using the integrated amp.

I just added an ATI525NC class D amp which is 300wpc into 4ohms and switched the connection to my Anthem using unbalanced pre outs. My speakers are XTZ M6's that are rated for max 300 watts.

When running the Anthem at -20db now, some reason I expected the spl coming out of the speaker to be higher. Am I understanding this whole thing incorrectly?

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML is not allowed!

 


For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome