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Yamaha RX-V1700 Receiver / RX-V2700 Receiver - Official Owners Thread

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#1 ·
I figured we may as well start up an official owners thread for the Yamaha RX-V1700 and RX-V2700 Receivers.

Rodny and I both ordered up the V1700 today.

If you own either, please let us all know and maybe share with us what you like, pros, cons, etc.

If you don't mind, let us know what speakers you are running with the unit.

Thanks!





Main Features:
  • 7-channel 910W powerful surround sound
    (130W x 7)
  • Digital ToP-ART with extremely high quality parts and devices used throughout
  • Pure Direct for higher fidelity sound reproduction
  • 2 in/1 out HDMI (ver. 1.2a) for handling digital signals including Super Audio CD
  • Assignable amplifiers for bi-amp connection
Advanced Features:
  • iPod song titles displayed on front panel and on-screen display (multi-language compatible)
  • Improved YPAO sound optimization
  • Superior zone control with additional zone remote unit
High Picture Quality:
  • 1080p compatible HDMI (2 in/1 out)
  • video up-conversion to HDMI
  • De-interlacing (480i to 480p)
  • Wide-range component video bandwidth
    (100MHz -3 dB, 1080p compatibility)
Surround Realism:
  • CINEMA DSP with 23 DSP programs
  • Dolby Digital EX and DTS-ES 96/24 compatibility
Other Features:
  • Audio Delay for adjusting lip-sync (0–240 ms)
  • Dialogue Lift for dialogue to screen center
  • Selectable 9-band subwoofer crossover frequencies
  • Subwoofer Phase Select
  • Night Listening Enhancer ensures can be heard clearly at low volumes
  • SILENT CINEMA and Virtual CINEMA DSP
  • iPod song titles displayed in English and Western European languages on the front panel and on-screen display
  • Detachable power cable
  • Extended remote control codes
  • Remote terminal for Zone 2 or Zone 3
  • Dual programable +12V trigger outputs
 
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#44 ·
I would think if the cable was the problem DD and DTS would work and there would be issues with the HD sound formats and/or HD video signal, as they require a lot more bandwidth than DD/DTS.

I have heard of cheaper cables passing 1080i but not 1080p, due to bandwidth issues.

HDMI v1.3 introduced a new mini connector for camcorders etc, unless you have a piece of equipment that uses this mini connector, there is no v1.3 cable.
 
#45 ·
It appears that the XA2 will not output bitstream over HDMI... the only available options for HDMI output are Auto, PCM or Downmixed (stereo) PCM. I guess MPCM is what we are supposed to be seeing on HD-DVDs. I'll try an SD-DVD this evening.
 
#46 ·
That is right!. MPCM with HD DVDs since the HD DVD player must internally decode the audio to Multichannel linear PCM if the disc is authored in Advanced Content mode (which most all HD DVDs are). It then mixes the audio with button sounds and if any, HDi commentary audio (goes with PiP, etc). It then sends the decoded/mixed Multichannel linear PCM out the HDMI port.

With a SD DVD the player will pass the legacy DD or dts bitstream out via HDMI, if the HDMI interface is set to the AUTO setting in the player's setup menu.
 
#50 ·
Wayne said:
Maybe not. It did smooth response above 3 kHz quite a bit. The SBS-01s are on the bright side, so it may be that they needed a little taming in Sonnie’s room. I think I’d leave the EQ alone, and instead dial up the treble control if more highs are needed, which would increase them while maintaining the improved response.
I dunno, those definitely don't look bright in his room, that looks prety laid back to me (~16db down from the average at 20khz). The auto EQ may have smoothed it a bit, but it smoothed it while further increasing the rolloff. That's a lot of top end detail being lost out on. Everyone has different sound characteristic preferences though, and Sonnie may prefer a rolled off top end.
 
#51 ·
This is surely why I initially said it sounded so laid back... for good reason. I actually like it on the music... it sounds really good and maybe it's good for the SBS-01's. I've left it off for the most part thus far. I want to tinker with the GEQ a little.


It sure would be super nice if Yamaha could release a firmware update to make the OSD short menus work via HDMI during a 1080i or better source. It would make living with the amp mo betta. Oh how the little things can gripe me sometimes.
 
#53 ·
Unfortunately it's not a significant update for me...

Yamaha has found that in some instances when switching between certain digital signals on an
RX-V1700 or HTR-6090, the digital signal will mute for an extended period of time or will not return.
Yamaha is offering a firmware update to correct this issue.
 
#56 ·
I had a read through the RXV-1700 manual last night and on page 19 it says that the 'short message display' (which shows the front panel display onscreen whenever a button is pressed) is not available on component 480p/576p/720p/1080i or HDMI. So it looks like you can only have the onscreen display with 480i/567i sources.

I can't think of too many AVRs that can do OSD over a progressive signal or HDMI for that matter.
 
#64 ·
FWIW one MAJOR difference, to me anyway, between the 2500, 2600, 2700, 4600, and RX-9, and all the rest of Yamahas receivers, is that you only get manual access to the PEQ bands on these models.
Some of the lower models like the 1700 do give you a fixed multi-band Graphic EQ however.

AFAIK the only place Yamaha tells you this is in the manuals, and they are making .pdf's of them hard to find. I wonder why...

You'll hear "the 5xxx model sold in big box stores is the same as the Rxxxxx model sold through dealers" a lot. Basically true, BUT you will not get manual access to mutiband parametric EQ on the big box models.
 
#78 ·
You do get a 7 band EQ with fixed frequencies and no Q adjustment on at least some of the HTR models, similar to what Sonnie has on the 1700.

Compare, say, page 90 of the HTR-6090 manual:
http://www.abtelectronics.com/images/products/PDF_Files/HTR-6090_om.pdf
with page 89 of the RX-V2700 manual:
http://www.yamaha-uk.com/pdf/owner_manuals/RX-V2700.pdf
(couldn't find a 2700 .pdf on a US site anymore -- pagination is different than the US manual in my hand in which the identical PEQ text appears on page 98).

Unless you have actually edited the PEQ's yourself on an HTR, I continue to believe that on the HTR's you have a choice of using the PEQ bands only as set automatically by the YPAO auto setup, or using the manual 7 band EQ instead.
 
#66 ·

AFAIK the only place Yamaha tells you this is in the manuals, and they are making .pdf's of them hard to find. I wonder why...
I’ve noticed this too, since they re-designed their web site. A month or so ago someone gave me this link for manuals from the Canadian web site:
http://www.yamaha.ca/av/Manuals.jsp#operating?from=support

You can find them on the US website, from this page. However, you do have to register to access them – nothing more than using an e-mail address and a password of your choice. Select “Manuals” from the drop-down box.
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/Pages/Search/SearchDetail.aspx?CTID=5010050&CNTYP=PRODUCT

Don’t know about you guys, but they’ve been loading really slow for me for weeks.

Regards,
Wayne
 
#69 ·
Features in a nutshell.

I've owned the 3805, 3806 and installed a couple of 2805's. A couple of things I like are larger volume display from my seat and independent crossovers for each channel. Another is a max volume setting that was handy to control my daughter's finger on the Volume Up button.

As far as sound... I really don't know. I don't remember much about the 2805's, other than the features. I only ever used the 3805 and 3806 as pre-pro's to my Earthquake amp. They were neutral in their sound IMO. I hope that it will at least still be neutral or on the warm side like the Yamaha, which as stated, I really like.

I know it sounds silly but those few features have really spoiled me and the volume view bugs me to no end.
 
#72 ·
Features in a nutshell.

I've owned the 3805, 3806 and installed a couple of 2805's. A couple of things I like are larger volume display from my seat and independent crossovers for each channel. Another is a max volume setting that was handy to control my daughter's finger on the Volume Up button.
Yeah, I know how that is, to be spoiled on whatever little things you like, and then to have them taken away from you. It makes a difference. But independent crossovers for each channel is critical. I would not consider buying a pre/pro/receiver that locked me into a single crossover point for all channels. Max volume would be nice as my daughter gets bigger...

I know it sounds silly but those few features have really spoiled me and the volume view bugs me to no end.
No way! You know what you like, and there's nothing wrong with that!
 
#75 ·
A couple of things I like are larger volume display from my seat and independent crossovers for each channel.
I've read a few articles that suggest the independant crossovers can cause phase problems. Maybe someone with this feature could run some tests with REW and see if its possible to optimize the phase setting for more than one crossover frequency.

This one talks about it toward the bottom of the article. I have read others advising against it but I can't find them right now.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_9_3/feature-article-multiple-crossovers-9-2002.html


Good or not, a manufacturer can't afford not to have it when all the others have. I heard Anthem left it out of the D1 (i think) because they thought it was a bad idea but eventually had to offer a software upgrade because of all the customers requesting it be added.


Ideally the AVR would have a variable phase control for all channels, i suppose you could start playing around with speaker distance settings to tweak the crossover points.
 
#70 ·
Sonnie,
Sorry to hear the Yamaha didn't work for you. But it sounds like you've had experiences with other equipment, which puts you in a good position to make these sorts of decisions. Bottom line is you've got to be comfortable with your equipment. These minor things can be very bothersome and who needs 'em. You'd think that by now and with a new generation of receiver each year, Yamaha would have these issues mastered :dontknow: . Let us know how the 2807 works out.
 
#76 ·
The major channels I would like independent crossovers is between the sub and the remaining speakers. IOW, as long as I can set the crossover for the sub and then set another for the remaining speakers, I'm cool. I'm generally always going to set the 5.0 speakers to 80Hz, however I may want to set my sub at 90Hz or 100Hz, or possible 70Hz. The phase can be adjusted on most subs.
 
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