I would think if the cable was the problem DD and DTS would work and there would be issues with the HD sound formats and/or HD video signal, as they require a lot more bandwidth than DD/DTS.
I have heard of cheaper cables passing 1080i but not 1080p, due to bandwidth issues.
HDMI v1.3 introduced a new mini connector for camcorders etc, unless you have a piece of equipment that uses this mini connector, there is no v1.3 cable.
It appears that the XA2 will not output bitstream over HDMI... the only available options for HDMI output are Auto, PCM or Downmixed (stereo) PCM. I guess MPCM is what we are supposed to be seeing on HD-DVDs. I'll try an SD-DVD this evening.
That is right!. MPCM with HD DVDs since the HD DVD player must internally decode the audio to Multichannel linear PCM if the disc is authored in Advanced Content mode (which most all HD DVDs are). It then mixes the audio with button sounds and if any, HDi commentary audio (goes with PiP, etc). It then sends the decoded/mixed Multichannel linear PCM out the HDMI port.
With a SD DVD the player will pass the legacy DD or dts bitstream out via HDMI, if the HDMI interface is set to the AUTO setting in the player's setup menu.
Is the HD DVD player converting the high definition digital audio track to analog anywhere in the process, or is the multichannel PCM signal digital from start to finish?
Maybe not. It did smooth response above 3 kHz quite a bit. The SBS-01s are on the bright side, so it may be that they needed a little taming in Sonnie’s room. I think I’d leave the EQ alone, and instead dial up the treble control if more highs are needed, which would increase them while maintaining the improved response.
I dunno, those definitely don't look bright in his room, that looks prety laid back to me (~16db down from the average at 20khz). The auto EQ may have smoothed it a bit, but it smoothed it while further increasing the rolloff. That's a lot of top end detail being lost out on. Everyone has different sound characteristic preferences though, and Sonnie may prefer a rolled off top end.
This is surely why I initially said it sounded so laid back... for good reason. I actually like it on the music... it sounds really good and maybe it's good for the SBS-01's. I've left it off for the most part thus far. I want to tinker with the GEQ a little.
It sure would be super nice if Yamaha could release a firmware update to make the OSD short menus work via HDMI during a 1080i or better source. It would make living with the amp mo betta. Oh how the little things can gripe me sometimes.
Unfortunately it's not a significant update for me...
Yamaha has found that in some instances when switching between certain digital signals on an
RX-V1700 or HTR-6090, the digital signal will mute for an extended period of time or will not return.
Yamaha is offering a firmware update to correct this issue.
I had a read through the RXV-1700 manual last night and on page 19 it says that the 'short message display' (which shows the front panel display onscreen whenever a button is pressed) is not available on component 480p/576p/720p/1080i or HDMI. So it looks like you can only have the onscreen display with 480i/567i sources.
I can't think of too many AVRs that can do OSD over a progressive signal or HDMI for that matter.
Yeah... I don't know of any either. I may can live with it... I'll just have to see how it works out and if it really gripes me bad enough. :sarcastic:
That’s one thing I really like about my ancient 3090 – a lighted LED on the volume knob that shows its position. ‘Course, I guess they don’t used motorized volume controls anymore...
FWIW one MAJOR difference, to me anyway, between the 2500, 2600, 2700, 4600, and RX-9, and all the rest of Yamahas receivers, is that you only get manual access to the PEQ bands on these models.
Some of the lower models like the 1700 do give you a fixed multi-band Graphic EQ however.
AFAIK the only place Yamaha tells you this is in the manuals, and they are making .pdf's of them hard to find. I wonder why...
You'll hear "the 5xxx model sold in big box stores is the same as the Rxxxxx model sold through dealers" a lot. Basically true, BUT you will not get manual access to mutiband parametric EQ on the big box models.
Unless you have actually edited the PEQ's yourself on an HTR, I continue to believe that on the HTR's you have a choice of using the PEQ bands only as set automatically by the YPAO auto setup, or using the manual 7 band EQ instead.
I've owned the 3805, 3806 and installed a couple of 2805's. A couple of things I like are larger volume display from my seat and independent crossovers for each channel. Another is a max volume setting that was handy to control my daughter's finger on the Volume Up button.
As far as sound... I really don't know. I don't remember much about the 2805's, other than the features. I only ever used the 3805 and 3806 as pre-pro's to my Earthquake amp. They were neutral in their sound IMO. I hope that it will at least still be neutral or on the warm side like the Yamaha, which as stated, I really like.
I know it sounds silly but those few features have really spoiled me and the volume view bugs me to no end.
I've owned the 3805, 3806 and installed a couple of 2805's. A couple of things I like are larger volume display from my seat and independent crossovers for each channel. Another is a max volume setting that was handy to control my daughter's finger on the Volume Up button.
Yeah, I know how that is, to be spoiled on whatever little things you like, and then to have them taken away from you. It makes a difference. But independent crossovers for each channel is critical. I would not consider buying a pre/pro/receiver that locked me into a single crossover point for all channels. Max volume would be nice as my daughter gets bigger...
I know it sounds silly but those few features have really spoiled me and the volume view bugs me to no end.
Sonnie,
Sorry to hear the Yamaha didn't work for you. But it sounds like you've had experiences with other equipment, which puts you in a good position to make these sorts of decisions. Bottom line is you've got to be comfortable with your equipment. These minor things can be very bothersome and who needs 'em. You'd think that by now and with a new generation of receiver each year, Yamaha would have these issues mastered :dontknow: . Let us know how the 2807 works out.
Thanks guys... I believe we have a comparison thread started between the 2807 and 1700, so I'll definitely update everyone with my thoughts between the two once I get the 2807 in hand.
The major channels I would like independent crossovers is between the sub and the remaining speakers. IOW, as long as I can set the crossover for the sub and then set another for the remaining speakers, I'm cool. I'm generally always going to set the 5.0 speakers to 80Hz, however I may want to set my sub at 90Hz or 100Hz, or possible 70Hz. The phase can be adjusted on most subs.
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