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01-10-16 07:47 PM
needspeed52
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

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That is great because I have to give a speech next week and could use all the help I can get
Very well put my friend, put a nice smile on my face...........
01-10-16 03:11 PM
Savjac
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

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Room treatments will bring out the best in all speakers.
That is great because I have to give a speech next week and could use all the help I can get
01-10-16 12:03 PM
ellisr63
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

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This is spot on. I purchased the SVS tower system that were in this evaluation. For the record their FR response is so much different in my room than in Sonnies. In Stereo Reference mode with them sealed I get response down to 26hz. Ported I get down to 22hz. In this 22-28hz range ported yields 7db more output... it's very significant.

I've done critical listening and they may be a smidge quicker sealed but lately I've been running them ported and they show no signs of slop.

They were IMHO bright in my room before treatments. Now they are perfect. Not bright at all but like you said... EXTENDED. The sibilance range of frequencies are present more than other speakers I've heard but that doesn't mean necessarily they are bright. I find them to be very smooth in response, accurate and a great deal.

I'd say room treatments bring out the best in these towers.
Room treatments will bring out the best in all speakers.
01-10-16 11:17 AM
Talley
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

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Let the reviews be a guide, but I recommend you audition the SVS Towers for yourself. I've never heard them have sloppy bass, and I'd call them extended on top but not bright. IMHO they are one of the best bargains around. When I've heard them I thought they gave a little away in ultimate detail to the best, but were quite competitive in midrange naturalness, soundstaging, bass dynamics and extension, and ability to play loud without glare, and they look like they cost $10K.
This is spot on. I purchased the SVS tower system that were in this evaluation. For the record their FR response is so much different in my room than in Sonnies. In Stereo Reference mode with them sealed I get response down to 26hz. Ported I get down to 22hz. In this 22-28hz range ported yields 7db more output... it's very significant.

I've done critical listening and they may be a smidge quicker sealed but lately I've been running them ported and they show no signs of slop.

They were IMHO bright in my room before treatments. Now they are perfect. Not bright at all but like you said... EXTENDED. The sibilance range of frequencies are present more than other speakers I've heard but that doesn't mean necessarily they are bright. I find them to be very smooth in response, accurate and a great deal.

I'd say room treatments bring out the best in these towers.
01-10-16 11:11 AM
Talley
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

Blast from the past... I skimmed over this again just as a refresher and there is some good info in here.

1. Why was Mark Seaton never announced early on as being in attendence. "Seaton" doesn't come up till page 107.
2. There should be another test performed but utilizing Dirac
02-08-15 04:30 PM
lcaillo
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

Thanks, yosh7. Please post your experiences as well.



02-08-15 02:28 PM
yosh7
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

Great review! These speakers look awesome.
09-21-14 06:31 PM
lcaillo
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

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Just a guess, but I don't think any speaker manufacturer wants to be involved in a "shoot-out" for fear of not being #1, or shudder, coming in last. And all based on an arbitrary group of dudes (and ladies?). Now this group was obviously incredibly professional and the results of a shoot-out would likely be applicable to a wide ranging audience. But the manufacturers have no way of knowing how good any particular "group of dudes" will conduct what needs to be a very scientific study.

*Now*, that said, I disagree with those who say "there can be no winner". I think if you take ~ > 5 experienced listeners and give them excellent review conditions, preferably with the ability to blindly A/B switch. Then give them let's say 100 points to allocate among the transducers as they see fit. Then add up the points and publish. I think it would be a reasonably good buying guide for those not able to do a study like this themselves.

So I think it's possible to conduct a good shootout, in theory. But who among us has enough money to buy 6 $2500 speakers for testing purposes and then set up an excellent experiment as described above? Don't go looking for submissions from manufacturers. Like I said above, no matter their confidence level, they're all scared to death sales will plummet when they wind up in the middle or bottom of the list -- in a situation that's out of their control. In fact, I wouldn't even put it past a deep-pocketed manufacturer to sue a shoot-out publisher for misrepresenting their product and harming their ability to earn.

Possible in theory? Yes. Practical? Nope.
Please start a new thread to discuss this. I will be happy to debate it but not here. The evaluation event that this thread was for is done and the way it was done cannot be changed. This is a good discussion, but it does not belong here. Keep this thread focused on the speakers in this evaluation and what was done.



09-21-14 04:39 PM
vidiot33 Your concerns regarding manufacturer participation depend mainly on how well know. The study is.
09-21-14 02:40 PM
Wooderson
Re: The Official $2,500 Speaker Evaluation / Home Audition Event

Just a guess, but I don't think any speaker manufacturer wants to be involved in a "shoot-out" for fear of not being #1, or shudder, coming in last. And all based on an arbitrary group of dudes (and ladies?). Now this group was obviously incredibly professional and the results of a shoot-out would likely be applicable to a wide ranging audience. But the manufacturers have no way of knowing how good any particular "group of dudes" will conduct what needs to be a very scientific study.

*Now*, that said, I disagree with those who say "there can be no winner". I think if you take ~ > 5 experienced listeners and give them excellent review conditions, preferably with the ability to blindly A/B switch. Then give them let's say 100 points to allocate among the transducers as they see fit. Then add up the points and publish. I think it would be a reasonably good buying guide for those not able to do a study like this themselves.

So I think it's possible to conduct a good shootout, in theory. But who among us has enough money to buy 6 $2500 speakers for testing purposes and then set up an excellent experiment as described above? Don't go looking for submissions from manufacturers. Like I said above, no matter their confidence level, they're all scared to death sales will plummet when they wind up in the middle or bottom of the list -- in a situation that's out of their control. In fact, I wouldn't even put it past a deep-pocketed manufacturer to sue a shoot-out publisher for misrepresenting their product and harming their ability to earn.

Possible in theory? Yes. Practical? Nope.
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