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03-22-14 04:08 PM
Harpmaker
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

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mucki wrote: View Post
Hi all,

just another German try

I sprayed my Tension with an HVLP Gun.
Black Widow ingredients:
Caparol Capacryl Pure-Matte (4) in RAL 7038 and the new AAA (1)





Edit: Images included - but they will not show :-(
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03-22-14 11:43 AM
mucki
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

Hi all,

just another German try

I sprayed my Tension with an HVLP Gun.
Black Widow ingredients:
Caparol Capacryl Pure-Matte (4) in RAL 7038 and the new AAA (1)





Edit: Images included - but they will not show :-(
03-18-14 05:55 PM
Space Cowboy
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

That would be great, thank you!

So one little question first: Are you satisified with your result using an NCS color? Or is there anything you would change if you could? Your mix is brighter than the original BW Ultra, right?

Best,

Paul
03-18-14 03:44 PM
darbid
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

Might be a while before I can post some pics in action. I am not actually sure how that is done when the room is dark. Plus I am not really sure that does it justice, but I will.
03-18-14 02:23 PM
Space Cowboy
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

Hi darbid,

Great posts so far!

I'm about to make a Black Widow myself and I'm living in Germany, too. Seems like NCS colors work a lot better than RAL ones... Could you please upload some pictures of a movie shot against your newly coloured wall? It would be great to see how this color mix works in action.

Best,

Paul

PS: I could't find Caparol Grau anywhere as well...
03-05-14 12:37 PM
Yiannis1970
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

Hello!! Yes, i have..

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...tml#post650495

The first graph is a mix (Grau 15 + Grau 20).
03-05-14 12:15 PM
darbid
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

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Harpmaker wrote: View Post
That RAL 7038 you got is really off-color, so much so that I would ask the store to replace it with some paint that was closer to the designated color.
Ahhhh I was hoping you said that about 2 weeks ago. I had the feeling that the paint was wrong but had no expert opinion to be able to argue as such in the shop. I threw it out as it was not worth keeping.


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For the ''German experience'' i would recommend also Caparol's Grau 15 and Grau 20 as a base, which are extremely neutral. I believe Caparol is a German firm, so, easy to find.
Hi Mate. Have you tested this? When I search for this I do find that it exists but I could never actually find a place even online that sold Caparol Grau 15 for example.

What I would like to suggest for the thread is that we suggest paints with a photo and test results to both help people and add something (even though we are not in the US) to the BWU thing.
03-05-14 11:45 AM
Yiannis1970
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

For the ''German experience'' i would recommend also Caparol's Grau 15 and Grau 20 as a base, which are extremely neutral. I believe Caparol is a German firm, so, easy to find.
03-03-14 04:44 PM
Harpmaker
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

That RAL 7038 you got is really off-color, so much so that I would ask the store to replace it with some paint that was closer to the designated color. To show how bad your batch is I ran the values through a Delta E program I have. The designated values for RAL 7038 are on the left and the actual color you got is on the right. The color squares represent the colors for the values above the square.

Four Delta E values are given in the bottom right of the picture, the one most used is still CIE 1976 and that value is 9.71; any value greater that 1.0 can be detected by most people.

02-27-14 11:32 AM
mechman
Re: Black Widow, The German experience (for beginners).

Excellent write-up David! I'm hoping to do more test on BW Ultra™ myself once it warms up some.
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