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post #31 of 166 Old 01-28-10, 01:28 PM
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Keep it under 300L? That's a little over 10 cubic foot.
I don't want to fix a size but that is part of the equation for the winning design.

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Keep it under 300L? That's a little over 10 cubic foot.
The one in the first post is 427L.
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Got all the basic params input into Hornresp and played for a bit tonight and well, um...

This is a little more complicated than winisd.
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The one in the first post is 427L.
Hmmmm. I didn't look at that honestly. I was just throwing a # out there.
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Or 38cf and maelstrom 18.........X2. Coming soon.
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The one in the first post is 427L.
There is no way around it. Bass horns that reach deep are going to be very large. That is something that people think we can wave a wand and change but it is fundamental to how horns function.

I think your 427L is going to be a realistic size for Shiva-X2 bass horns. People who want Tempest-X2, and Maelstrom horns are going to be looking at construction projects that involve the room. They are going to be absolutely huge. They also have extra challenges with getting inert enclosures because large panels flex, especially with the forces they are exposed to in the mouth of a horn. Building horns is going to require building, testing and measuring and when DIYers want to copy a build, they are going to need to do it per the drawing or get unpredictable results.

That is part of the reason I've not been a big proponent. It seems like everyone wants to change my standard box designs to fit their application. With sealed or ported cabinets you can change the design easily. With horns.... that won't be the case.

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You could use four Mal 21's in this design..... http://www.royaldevice.com/custom.ht...20TOTAL%20HORN


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post #38 of 166 Old 01-29-10, 05:01 PM
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What about a tempest-x horn... just playing around with building one for a sofa table sub
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There is no way around it. Bass horns that reach deep are going to be very large. That is something that people think we can wave a wand and change but it is fundamental to how horns function.
I agree. I learned that lesson trying to get high performing midbass horns to be compact.

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I think your 427L is going to be a realistic size for Shiva-X2 bass horns. People who want Tempest-X2, and Maelstrom horns are going to be looking at construction projects that involve the room. They are going to be absolutely huge. They also have extra challenges with getting inert enclosures because large panels flex, especially with the forces they are exposed to in the mouth of a horn. Building horns is going to require building, testing and measuring and when DIYers want to copy a build, they are going to need to do it per the drawing or get unpredictable results.

That is part of the reason I've not been a big proponent. It seems like everyone wants to change my standard box designs to fit their application. With sealed or ported cabinets you can change the design easily. With horns.... that won't be the case.

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Agree to all of this too. Some of the models I've come up with are a bit larger, but smaller doesn't seem to work well so far.

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You could use four Mal 21's in this design..... http://www.royaldevice.com/custom.ht...20TOTAL%20HORN
It's not a Tapped Horn.

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What about a tempest-x horn... just playing around with building one for a sofa table sub
A baseline start would be Chris' design in post 1, widened by 3" or so to fit the Tempest and use the TH wizard in Hornresp to adjust from there. For a full size single bed, you have a possibility of about 6x3' which increases possibilities.
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i need to get to 5 posts to post my content, so here is a post.
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