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GIK Acoustics / Odyssey Audio - EVERGREEN B & C, Room 9000

*Odyssey Audio is not currently a sponsor but shared a room with GIK and was covered as part of that room.







The system configuration included:

Component MSRP
Odyssey Kismet Beryllium Reference speakers $3,900 / pair
Odyssey Candela Preamp $1,500
Odyssey Khartago Monoblocks $1,800 / pair
Groneberg Quatro Cables  


The whole system can be purchased for $6,700.


Background / Specifications

GIK Acoustics has numerous variations of acoustic panels, bass traps, and diffusers installed around the world... with locations in the U.S. and Europe.

Odyssey Audio is based in Indianapolis, Indiana and makes all their products in house. The Kismet Beryllium Reference speakers are new for RMAF. Treatment of the room included rear corner traps, diffuser / traps for the first reflection points, plants, and front corner traps. There were also some patent-pending traps in the back of the room.


Joe's Impressions

Bryan Pape from GIK was in the room when we got there and showed us the treatment that was used in the room - they have a new patent pending design that incorporates material and air into the panel - look for more details at the GIK website. The panels are super easy to install and move around - making treating your room a snap!

I really liked the design and finish on the Kismets - they have a unique trapezoidal design and the dark finish was really well done. They image perfectly for vocals with a incredibly wide and deep soundstage - I understand why Klaus makes it a point to only have a couple seats set up in the room as you really need to sit in the PLP to get the full effect.

Instruments - the piano especially - were very crisp and detailed. I wrote three times in my notes about how much I really liked the piano tracks on this system - it was just so soothing and finger-tapping at the same time! Vocal dynamics were also handled really well - no surprise here after hearing the Loreleis at CapFest - and vocals had a very natural sound that I normally equate with a ribbon / horn speaker. Low end sounded very good here - while most setups struggled with the room limitations and their propensity for boomy bass, the combination of GIK treatment and Odyssey speakers did a real good job taming this.

This system is definitely one of those examples I spoke about in the general thread - it is a system that in my opinion sounds like a high-priced set up but is within the budget range of us ordinary joes. This was another one of my top five set ups for the weekend.


Wayne's Impressions

In some rooms I had to ponder what to say about a system or a pair of speakers. In the Odyssey Audio room, it was easy. The Odyssey Kismet Beryllium Reference speakers are fun, accurate speakers at a nice price.

Klaus Bunge was kind enough to give me some focus time with his system. Having paid a lot of attention to tweeters in various products, I was drawn to the easy smoothness of the beryllium dome tweeter in use. With some tweeters I had listened to, you could hear how hard they were working to impress. This tweeter made its job sound easy. Sibilants were balanced and clear. Imaging in the upper ranges was solid and tight with no smearing on my most stringent test tracks. I won't say that it equaled the RAAL tweeter being raved about elsewhere or the plasma tweeters I had drooled over, but it sure came close.

How accurate are these speakers? Maybe not quite true reference grade, but close - there were no glaring deficiencies that showed up with rock, bluegrass instrumental, female vocal, or piano on the tracks I had brought along. And they were fun to listen to, had some character while remaining faithful in reproducing the music as it sounded on my own reference systems.

All Odyssey products are manufactured in the USA, Klaus is proud to point out - 100% USA, 0% overseas, stated a poster on one wall, paraphrased slightly. Klaus insists that all Odyssey speaker designs meet the following criteria:
  • They must be emotionally engaging. I can attest to that. I had a great time with the Kismet Beryllium Reference speakers, more so than with some speakers at 3x to 4x the price.
  • They must project a good soundstage. Again, the Reference speakers excelled.
  • They must have accurate tonality. Three for three.
Having teamed up with Bryan Pape and the GIK Acoustics team, Klaus had the Reference speakers benefiting from portable room treatment that made the small space feel big with a nice, full soundstage. Bryan and GIK are well known among Home Theater Shack readers, Bryan giving generous online support of the highest caliber to all with room acoustics questions, and GIK providing high-quality and budget-conscious acoustical treatment products that many HTS readers rely on.

Great, engaging sound along with budget-friendly prices made the Odyssey Kismet Beryllium Reference speakers very easy to like. The system price of $6,700 was refreshing as well.


Dennis' Impressions

I really enjoyed Klaus's Odyssey gear. Combined with Bryan Pape guiding placement of the GIK Acoustic room treatments, the room's walls disappeared, leaving no hint at all that we were listening in the confines of a 12 x 12 hotel room.

Nice, wide soundstage with holographic images filling in the center, the sound was mellow and easy to listen to. I found myself rocking back and forth with the music, an involuntary motion that is always a good sign that I am getting into what I am hearing.
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Re: GIK Acoustics / Odyssey Audio

Ordered room treatments from Alex and Christina at GIK just earlier this week.

Alex spent a good bit of time looking at my messy REW graphs for my small listening room, and helped me both get nicer tracings, and great suggestions for helping my room acoustics. It seems that I would need to just about completely cover my wall surfaces with 10.5 inch tuned panels to really cope with my nasty 40Hz resonance, but I trust the tri-traps and bass panel will help enough. My 2.0 system will go down to 35hz, and I have no EQ system (nor want one tbh) in my mancave audio/visual/computer room.

Christina was great at helping me pick a fabric and spec out the one custom part I needed to order.

Just waiting now. A great experience working with them, and I am positive the sound and looks will be great.
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Re: GIK Acoustics / Odyssey Audio

Of the few dozen rooms I was able to visit, this one had the best, most controlled bass of the small hotel rooms. Thank you, bass traps! The other room that had great bass was Evergreen A downstairs, where Legacy Audio was displaying, among others. But that room was huge (like maybe 100x80x25 or something), so modal problems occur at much lower frequencies. The Legacies I heard were EQ'd too. Anyway, the room and room treatments make all the difference.
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Re: GIK Acoustics / Odyssey Audio

I have a semi basement that I will use for a home theater approximately 13 by 15' - drywall, tile floors, 7.5' ceilings with two 1' deep beams parallel to my planned screen. As I am still in the hunt for speakers, I am not really able to determine the room control that I would need. A rug for sure, heavy curtains across the french doors behind the screen. Then maybe bass traps in the corners and side wall panels for first reflections. What concerns me is the effect of the beams which split the 15' length in about thirds.
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I do not have any way to measure my room right now, but I can tell you that my room is boomy. I need to get some corner bass traps from them. I just heard about the new Flex Range Technology. Is this available for a corner bass trap. I was looking at the Tri-trap corner bass traps for my front two corners. My room is 11' X 18' with a 7'6" ceiling.
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Re: GIK Acoustics / Odyssey Audio

Hi Rich...

You may want to ask that in our Home Audio Acoustics forum, which is sponsored by GIK Acoustics. Bryan Pape (bpape) of GIK is a moderator in that forum, so he will get notice of your question if you start a thread there.
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Ok will do. Bryan has helped me in the past. Great guy.
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Glad to hear the good reports from Odyssey's room. Klause was very helpful in my amp search, and although I bought a used amp (hedging my bet, I guess), it was an Odyssey, and it has blown me away in what it did for my Infinitys, as Klaus had assured me, so I have a soft spot for Odyssey. Since the Infinitys do need replacing soon, (I read the $2500 speaker eval with great interest), I'm liking the good reports on his speakers. I heard the beryllium tweeters in a pair of Focal 1028BE's, and was VERY impressed, so....maybe I need to focus my search...? I already understand the value in Odyssey products, after all....
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Re: GIK Acoustics / Odyssey Audio

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I have a semi basement that I will use for a home theater approximately 13 by 15' - drywall, tile floors, 7.5' ceilings with two 1' deep beams parallel to my planned screen. As I am still in the hunt for speakers, I am not really able to determine the room control that I would need. A rug for sure, heavy curtains across the french doors behind the screen. Then maybe bass traps in the corners and side wall panels for first reflections. What concerns me is the effect of the beams which split the 15' length in about thirds.
I would think when you carpet the floor you could get a little extra and carpet the beams also. At least that would help with any relections you might get off the beams. I have about the same size room in my basement HT and I painted it dark green, flat paint so light from the PJ would not reflect off it. I also put 4 2" by 4' panels of corning fiberglass on the cieling to help tame any reflections I would get from my front soundstage. I think it really helped and it sounds great. I have 2 bass traps in the room also, 1 from Gik and 1 I built myself.

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I can't say enough how much acoustic treatment helped my theater room. It has been said a million times but it really does make a world of difference
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