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post #61 of 81 Old 07-26-09, 09:49 PM
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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

Has anyone who owns a EP2500 pick up a EP4000 to hear if there is a difference?

I am a QSC guy myself but a friend of mine bought a EP2500 and uses it to drive the DIY sub I made him. I am tempted to pick up a EP4000 just to compare to his EP2500 but we both have busy schedules so it would make it tough.

It appears to be a just a rebage of the EP2500 with maybe a few minor tweaks added but the proof is in trying out the 2 in the same set-up.

If I ever get around to picking up a EP4000 and can compare then I will post my thoughts here, I wouldn't hold my breath on it happening anytime soon though.
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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

I think behringer recently published this about the ATR whatever that is:

"Accelerated Transient Response delivers the
knock-out punch.
It takes huge pulses of energy (current and voltage) to propel
a woofer cone out fast enough to match a bass beat. That’s called
Transient Response and it’s the holy grail of amp designers. By
carefully selecting transistors and MOSFETs with extremely
high slew rates and optimizing other proprietary parts of our
amps’ circuitry, they are able to react instantly to even the most
demanding electronic bass impulses. If the woofers in your
PA system can keep up, your audience will hear a tighter, crisper,
more natural sound."

Looks like marketing to me.
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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

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Yes... you can make that run with no issues... or use 12 gauge speaker wire. You might want to use shielded RCA's, depending on what route you are taking.

I am actually using two 40' runs of in-wall 12 gauge speaker wire from front to back of our HT room. It will be for the EP2500 to power the rear subs. In our previous HT room I ran a 1/4" TS cable 30' from front to back to get signal to the EP2500. I did not want to have to worry about how I was going to power up the EP2500 in the new HT room.
Hmm, I was under the impression that it's generally a bad idea to run unbalanced connections longer than 15-20 feet. I need about 40 feet of wiring to run LFE signal to the back of my room and plan to use RCA-to-XLR converter along with a balanced 40 foot cable. Shielded RCA could still pick up EM interference adding noise to the system. And what's the point of using 12 gauge cables? To minimize the difference between ground levels due to cable's impedance? Why not just go balanced since you are using a professional amp anyway and not worry about any of these issues?
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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

I never had any issues with the 30' unbalanced run.

I ran 12 gauge "speaker wire" this time around so that I could keep my amps up front for remote turn on. If I had ran balanced or unbalanced cables... then I would have to either manually turn on and off each amp every time I entered and exited the HT room... or rig up some sort of remote turn-on system creating more equipment and wires. It was much easier to just run the speaker wire... and cheaper than the alternative cables.
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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

Hi .. Any links to actual reviews of these amps.... Thanks
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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

I have a 4000, but not any other behringer amps, so I can't really compare. I can say that the 4000 is definitely not putting out 4000 watts of power. I hooked it up to four 600 watt 18" drivers and it clipped before the drivers maxed out. We also hooked it up to a watt meter and we were drawing a little over 1500 watts when pushed. This could have been because of limitations on the circuit, as the lights were dimming when the bass was pushed, but we didn't blow a fuse or anything.

Does anyone know if the clip limiter comes on with a voltage drop? This might explain why the lights dimmed, but we didn't blow a fuse.
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the 4000 and the 2500 look to be the same to me. Does anyone have any reason i should know to buy one over the other? thanx
I don't know why they discontinued the 2500. I haven't heard anyone say the 4000 is a better amp so I am going to buy another 2500 because I have one already and love it.

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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

specs on 2500 and 4000 vary slightly as follows :

2500:
8 ohm stereo 500 wpc
4 ohm stereo 750 wpc
2 ohm stereo 1200 wpc
4 ohm bridged 2400 w

warranty 3 yrs

4000:

8 ohm stereo 550 wpc
4 ohm stereo 950 wpc
2 ohm stereo 1250 wpc
4 ohm bridged 2400 w

warranty 1 yr

My question is are they getting more power out in the higher loads now by tweaking it, or are they just doing marketing? They are rated same power to bridged loads.

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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

another question? Can this amp be run in 2 ohm bridged? Or will that melt it? My speakers are each 4 ohms (2 8ohm drivers each), meaning I'm not really getting the most out of the amp.
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Re: Behringer Power Amplifiers: EP2000 and EP4000

No they do not....

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