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To the comment on the laserdisc... my uncle has his with about three dozen movies or so. For a good while after DVD was released he said the LD was still better... but after years passed and the players improved and/or proper disc usage or whatever he said DVD finally surpassed LD. No question out there BD is superior to all of the above (currently)

I have heard LP on one of the systems that cost more than a car... his "Basis Audio" LP deck alone cost some 26k and he has an external power supply and some other stuff, really I'm not that familiar with the LP systems

BUT... I can hear a huge improvement of soundstage on the LP vs. the same CD. Not sure what else to say but for one I know that LP has a better sound. However he has all the expensive wet cleaning tools and all sorts of other stuff to go with it. It helps he has over 2000 albums on LP but thats 40 years of collection.

He does say the LPs do wear out... he has multiple copies of his favorite albums and told me that there was one album he has worn out three copies but has 4 more in there ready to go.

LP is expensive and really it's not ever gonna be for me. call me cheap :P

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To the comment on the laserdisc... my uncle has his with about three dozen movies or so. For a good while after DVD was released he said the LD was still better... but after years passed and the players improved and/or proper disc usage or whatever he said DVD finally surpassed LD.

BUT... I can hear a huge improvement of soundstage on the LP vs. the same CD.

He does say the LPs do wear out... he has multiple copies of his favorite albums and told me that there was one album he has worn out three copies but has 4 more in there ready to go.

LP is expensive and really it's not ever gonna be for me. call me cheap :P
It's hard to compare one to the other or say one is better than another. You can look at the specs and see which one has the potential to be better. At the end of the day a well made VHS could look better that a Bluray.

I have so many versions of Starwars and I can't believe the different. The DVD transfer on one of my copies is beautiful, you would think it was a Bluray and in the same packaging is the "original" copy taken from the LD and it looks very poor. My old DVD of Outbreak looks like they copied it straight from the VHS, it even has the scan lines at the far bottom that are cut off on my CRT but show up on my projector.

As far as LP and CD's. I believe on average LP's are made to a higher standard back in the day. Spec wise CD's overall are "better" but music does not bring profit so they need to cut back on mastering.

LP's can be cheap or expensive, just don't get it in your head that you need to spend X amount of dollars to get something good.
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Re: Thinking of Getting into Vinyl - Worth It?

There was a big downturn in LP quality in the late 70s to early 80s. Thinner pressings resulted in more edge warps, and recycled vinyl resulted in higher background noise just to mention a few issues.
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I can't recommend it from a fidelity, value, or a convenience standpoint. If you're interested in exploring the history of music and/or music reproduction, that's a different issue. Some music never made it to digital.

I have approx. 800+ LPs, and my LP cleaner was close to the cost of my turntable/cartridge (I already had the 2-channel vintage equipment). Do I enjoy listening to vinyl? Of course I do. It can be transferred to digital, and it will have the same sound as vinyl. It's a time-consuming, tedious task, tho.

FWIW, I also have a 1916 Victor/Victrola. I use that to help guests that overstay their visit make an exit.
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There was a big downturn in LP quality in the late 70s to early 80s. Thinner pressings resulted in more edge warps, and recycled vinyl resulted in higher background noise just to mention a few issues.
A lot of new releases these days are pressed on 180 gram, virgin vinyl. Mastering is dependent on the engineers. Some new stuff sounds great (often the 180 gram stuff), but some of it is not mastered or pressed well. My friend brought over something brand new recently and I thought it was something used from the 70s.
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I've said this plenty of times before, but for me I like vinyl because it is inconvenient. No that's not a typo. The inconvenience of vinyl makes listening to music more of an event, instead of just background noise. It helps make music the main event, which it isn't for many people today.

Also, it helps a lot that most of the music I listen to is primarily released on vinyl. It's not usually exclusively vinyl (sometimes it is), but it's obvious that vinyl is the flagship.
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well, just a little overboard on my part, but I'm still juiced-up on that chasint's coffee. sip, sip
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Great sound, setup is almost a black art. Fiddly, very fiddly, but also very rewarding and kinda fun when you get the hang of it. 2K will get you a used VPI Scout and a tubed, fully adjustable, Jolida JD9 phono stage, and a Spin Clean record cleaner. Then you're pretty much set.

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There are those (me for example) who have large vinyl collections much of which will never be released on CD. If we want to hear that music a TT is necessary. So, considering my collection (3500+ LP's, 1600+CD's), having a TT is essential. I have a dedicated music server PC to which all my CD's have been ripped. However, being realistic, because it's done in real time there are too many LP's in my collection for me to rip all of them.

I've started "ripping" some of my favorite vinyl to my music server as 16/48 FLAC files. That it's time consuming is a given, especially if you manually remove excessive "ticks and pops". I have all the accoutrements needed (vacuum RCM, brush, Zerostat, strobe, stylus pressure gauge, stylus protractor) to unsure maximum playback quality. Besides, I've become used to the whole "thing" that is inherent in vinyl playback. One thing I've noticed is that many CD releases of LP's do not sound as good as the LP. My rips of those LP's sound a lot better than the commercial CD. So yes, IMO it's worth it.

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