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post #1 of 18 Old 02-23-11, 07:57 PM Thread Starter
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Has Anyone Seen the News on These "Vintage" Onkyo Pieces Yet?

These look very cool:

http://www.gspr.com/onkyo/3000-5000-7000.html

Apparently, they made an announcement that these three separate components have a "retro" look to mimic the appearance of their hi fi gear from the '80s. The amp has the classic VU meters like the old Integras and Onkyos, but surprisingly, it's only rated at 80 watts a channel...I thought I MAY have found a power upgrade to connect to my TX-8555 stereo receiver but alas, it has less power...

The preamp and CD player look nice too.
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Re: Has Anyone Seen the News on These "Vintage" Onkyo Pieces Yet?

Dale has ya beat by a few days

http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...-go-retro.html
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I'd have to agree that I do like the look. And I also agree that they could use a bit more power.
Indeed, mechman. The look is definitely classic and businesslike Onkyo -- but with the vintage edge. The VU meters are definitely cool, but what's up with 80 watts per channel and the price tag??
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Wow -- didn't realize that; I didn't check the news section...wasn't really a rush to compete for who throws up which news story first, but I saw it and just thought I'd share it with everyone...
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"...with a dynamic power rating of over 450 watts into 1 ohm..." I wouldn't worry too much about the 80 wpc rating, the thing obvously has guts. 80 wpc, both channels driven 20Hz-20kHz into 8 Ohms with 0.05% THD. Massive twin toroidal transformers and four 27,000 μF capacitors. Intended for a higher end market than the average home theater enthusiast.

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I agree with Jay, Those amps would run circles around most amps rated twice the output.

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Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

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Yamaha KX-393 Tape deck, CDC 805 CD changer, Panasonic BD60, Sony turntable PS-T20
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"...with a dynamic power rating of over 450 watts into 1 ohm..." I wouldn't worry too much about the 80 wpc rating, the thing obvously has guts. 80 wpc, both channels driven 20Hz-20kHz into 8 Ohms with 0.05% THD. Massive twin toroidal transformers and four 27,000 μF capacitors. Intended for a higher end market than the average home theater enthusiast.

AWRAT (Advanced Wide Range Amplifier Technology)
DIDRC (Dynamic Intermodulation Distortion Reduction Circuitry)
Quad Push-Pull Amplification Design with Three-Stage Inverted Darlington Circuitry
Symmetrical Layout of L/R Channels
Two Massive Toroidal Transformers with Sub Transformer
Four Large 27,000 μF Capacitors
Well, this is actually not geared toward a home theater enthusiast at all, but rather an audiophile two channel kind of person; also, I wasn't really "worrying" about the power rating; it just seemed to be a bit on the low side on paper based on its sheer size and heft.

Still, others I have discussed these pieces with totally concur with me that these are severely overpriced and that the power amp in particular could use more juice -- but I totally see where you're coming from based on the specs provided.
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I agree with Jay, Those amps would run circles around most amps rated twice the output.
Hmmm...

You really think?
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Re: Has Anyone Seen the News on These "Vintage" Onkyo Pieces Yet?

I had two White monoblock amps that were only rated at 30watts each but boy they would out power my Carver amp I had that was rated at 100watts without a problem it was due to the large power supply's and capacitors in them much better reserve.

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Onkyo 805, Yamaha YDP2006EQ, Samson Servo 600 amp
3 EV Sentry 500 monitors across the front, 4 Mission 762i's Surrounds, SVS PB13U sub, Panasonic BDT220, Harmony 1100, Nintendo WiiU
Panasonic PT-AE8000 on a 120" 2,35:1 fixed screen

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Hmmm...

You really think?
It all has to do with power supply and capacitance. If they are 1ohm stable then that right there tells you they are brutes and with price like that you get what you pay for which i'd say is alot.
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