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15' x 22' Media Room converting into theater

I will start by saying thank God for forums. This is probally going to be my second most exciting project of my life. I started buy buying a home theater magazine and did as much research as possible. Next i did a search on yahoo for a forum, i browsed through a couple till i found this one. Once is saw the layout of the forum and the number of posts I knew my search was over.

I have a 15' wide x 22' long x 11' celing. I guess i will make a list of questions specificly for my HT. i will also post pictures every step of the way. I would like to build a HT, magazine worthy. i just need to step in the right direction. hopefully my build will help other like me in this HT community.
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15'x22'x11'
1st Row View 13'8"
2nd Row View 18'-19"
Projector mounted 18'
1. 2 rows 4 chairs each row Bello(need to order)
2. 120" x 51.1"/130.4" diagonal screen(need to order)
3. Paradigm Studio 100 LR(need to order)
4. Paradigm Studio CC690(need to order)
5. Paradigm Studio ADP590 surrounds rears(need to order)
6. Paradigm Studio ADP590 surrounds sides(need to order)
7. SVS PB13-Ultra $1200(need to order)
8. Sony BDP-S550 blu-ray $400
9. Panasonic AE3000 projector $2500(need to order)
10. NAD T785 receiver $2900(need to order)
11. URC MX-6000 remote $1100(need to order)
12. URC/Lutron Dimmers$150ea.(need to order)


Game Room
Vizio 47" LCD 1080p
Sony receiver
Sony DVD
Sony DVD/VHS









 

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Welcome to the forums.

Looks like you have a very nice space to work with. The one thing I noticed is the chopped off corner on one side of the room. If that's on the 'side' instead of the front or back, you'll want to mirror it on the other side to maintain good symmetry left to right.

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Welcome to the forums.

Looks like you have a very nice space to work with. The one thing I noticed is the chopped off corner on one side of the room. If that's on the 'side' instead of the front or back, you'll want to mirror it on the other side to maintain good symmetry left to right.

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i know its a real eye sore. i plan to do that asap. also i wanted to add a tray celing. your thoughts.
 

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1. Seating i was thinking about 2 rows 3 chairs each row
This calculator will help you with Riser height

2. 120" screen is this too big?
Calculator for Viewing distance

3b. Paradigm Seismic 12 Sub
I don't own this sub ... but I read a lot about SVS, HSU, Ed that you can also consider.

6. Onkyo's TX SR805 or Sony receiver $1000
If you have to decide between this two ... I say, Onkyo :yes:

Do you still have bare walls (just studs???) ... Don't forget to fill all cavities with insulation :yes:
 

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what about integra? i think they are arround the same price.

the walls are up and painted. just need to add the matching slope. mabey lower the celing.
do you have a link for those other subs?
 

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what about integra? i think they are arround the same price....
That's another option ... my suggestion is to compare their features and see which one has what you need (don't forget the TrueHD and DTS HD decoder) :yes:

...the walls are up and painted. just need to add the matching slope. mabey lower the celing
Please tell me that you filled the wall cavities with insulation ... if not, you'll have a resonance problem :yes:

do you have a link for those other subs?...
Here you go SVS Sound ; they're one of the sponsor of this forum ... and here is HSU

You can even get a complete 5.1 or 7.1 package from SVS ... I never heard Paradigm or SVS, so I can't tell you which one is better; but I read a lot of good things from members who got SVS packages ... specially the subs :yes:
 

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Trey could certainly work. If you're up for it, you could mirror the angle on the other side with standard construction and then add a trey all around with just framing, absorption, and cloth and get some good broadband bass control out of the deal.

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your thoughts. im think about moving all of the theater room equiptment to my game room. also think about adding a Yamaha ysp-4000 sound projector for game room LCD, in place of a surround system.



the media room is off to the right
 

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.... im think about moving all of the theater room equiptment to my game room. also think about adding a Yamaha ysp-4000 sound projector for game room LCD, in place of a surround system.
My opinion:

1. Game Room has many open spaces that might cause accoustic problems ...

2. YSP 4000 - I don't think it will have a good frequency response, and doesn't include a sub, Right???

But at the end, you'll decide what is best for you ...:yes:

P.S.: Do this mean that you won't have a dedicated room for HT??? ...or is this a different
project??? :dontknow:

EDIT: Just in case somebody want to take a look at YSP 4000 Specifications
 

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just want to know what would be a good sound system for the game room. the HT will have a full sound system
yes the game room is a diferent project.
 

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just want to know what would be a good sound system for the game room. the HT will have a full sound system yes the game room is a diferent project.
In that case, the sound bar will be the easy way to go ... no wires to run, small and I'm sure you don't need the best FR to play games.

I've seen other sound bars from Polk, but I can't tell you which one is better ... :hide:
 

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Back to busniess. maping out the seating location. in the pics below the back of the seats are at 12'. So the viewing will be between 11' and 12'. should be perfect for a 106" screen????





this is the proposed first row the double seat gives more room on the sides aprox 2'6"



Second row not sure yet but here is a thought or mabey two seats at both corners
 

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Some of you probably get tired of me saying this but it's appropriate here.

PLEASE do not adjust seating position to fit a specific screen. That's backward. Put the seating where you'll have the best frequency response and surround effect and then select the appropriate screen size for that distance.

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PLEASE do not adjust seating position to fit a specific screen. That's backward. Put the seating where you'll have the best frequency response and surround effect and then select the appropriate screen size for that distance. Bryan
This translated in numbers according to your first post (I have a 16' wide x 23' long x 14' celing) will be:

14' from font wall or 9' from back wall :yes:

EDIT: In case that you're wondering how I got this numbers, there's a rule to calculate where to place the seats (is for a starting point) ...it says to place them 62% of the lenght of the room from front wall or 38% from back wall ... is called the 38% rule.
 

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the seating position is aproximate. i will have + or - 18" to adjust seating for the best frequency response and surround effect.
 

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This translated in numbers according to your first post (I have a 16' wide x 23' long x 14' celing) will be:

14' from font wall or 9' from back wall :yes:

EDIT: In case that you're wondering how I got this numbers, there's a rule to calculate where to place the seats (is for a starting point) ...it says to place them 62% of the lenght of the room from front wall or 38% from back wall ... is called the 38% rule.
ok i re measured 15' wide x 21'8" long x 11' celing
 

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ok i re measured 15' wide x 21'8" long x 11' celing
In that case start placing your seating at 8.5' from back wall and see how it sound ... if not just adjust as need it.

Do you have your speakers and AVR??? .... if not, maybe you can use wherever you have to test the placement :yes:
 

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The placement in that general area will primarily impact frequency response around 300hz and below just FYI

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Im new to this. so for the rest of the weekend im going to visit some of the local A/V HT stores. this way i can get a better understanding.
 

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I took a visit to Stereo East nice friendly atmosphere. they were willing to answer alot of Questions i had. the first media room setup in large showroom had a 1080p Epson projector, 110" screen in a room a little smaller than mine(14' x 18'). First impression i loved it i thought the screen was a little big, overall it was a little hard on my eyes. then i went to a room that had a sony 60 projector, all i can say is wow. the picture was so much sharper clearer almost 3d like. right now im going to go with the sony. but the projector will be the last thing i purchase(just in case sony comes out with a new model).

after looking at their media room setups and a dozen of novice questions. I found a solution to my seating arrangement, the second row will go all the way to the back wall 4 seats, 2 on one side of the double door and 2 on the other. that will leave the First row with maxium ajustment for the surrounds.

tomorrow i will check out some more shops, but I will probally do my busniess with Stereo East.
 
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