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2014 Value Electronics Flat Panel Shootout

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10th ANNUAL FLAT PANEL SHOOTOUT AT VALUE ELECTRONICS IN SCARSDALE, NY

Video Experts Along with the Attending Audience Will Evaluate the Newest Flagship HD and 4K Ultra HD Panels To Answer The Question: Which Manufacturer Makes the Best TV?

Schedule:
Day One, Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:00 PM EST
Day Two, Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:00 PM EST

Place:
Value Electronics 35 Popham Rd, Scarsdale, NY 10583

Phone:
Direct 914-723-3344 or 800-789-5050

Want to help us determine who makes the best TV for 2014... Join us on 8/16 or 8/17 and get an exceptional professional video education and meet our panel of experts, headed by Kevin Miller, DeWayne Davis and David Mackenzie. You will also meet and hear our two Keynote special guest speakers, Joe Kane and Dr. Larry Weber.

To attend in person email Robert Zohn: [email protected] and put in the subject line, 2014 TV Shootout Request.

Can't attend in person, watch the event on our live on our dedicated Livestream channel.


The Online live feed will be broadcast in HD and will allow viewers to submit questions which will be moderated by our staff a/v techs and select questions will be read out loud for our panel of experts to answer in realtime.

TVs included in our Tenth annual TV Shootout, Saturday, August 16th and Sunday August 17th, 2014. Email us for an application to attend in person. Live webcast in HD is open to everyone worldwide.

4K 2160p models:

Samsung S9 Direct Lit LCD/LED w/local dimming 105" UN105S9W

Samsung UN78HU9000 78" Edge lit local dimming
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I better grab the popcorn and sit back. Hope DNice is there also.
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Want to help us determine who makes the best TV for 2014... Join us on 8/16 or 8/17 and get an exceptional professional video education and meet our panel of experts, headed by Kevin Miller, DeWayne Davis and David Mackenzie. You will also meet and hear our two Keynote special guest speakers, Joe Kane and Dr. Larry Weber.

Is there anyway to see the sshow without being forced to join facebook? It blocks the whole screen.
If you have a Roku, do as I am doing. Run it through Roku to the TV and I am not on Facebook
Robert

Excellent show

Enjoyed every minute

Looking forward to hear Dr. Weber tomorrow



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Really liked watching the 2014 Shoot-Out

Robert has spent a ton of money to bring this to us each year. I hope he gets a lot of sales for all of his effort.
Help me remember:

What was it about the LG OLED that was causing some problems?



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Hi Jim,

Well, none that were enough to kill it, in my opinion, but it had clear issues with color accuracy and even the gamma curve (at least as D-Nice calibrated it, and he did say it was a trade-off), plus the ABL thing annoyed me plenty.

Yours,

David
David

Thanks

I just read your final report and was a little discouraged in some way and encouraged in others.

Why discouraged? Because you personally picked my set as the winner (64F8500). This means I will probably keep it one more year vs getting an OLED this year.

Encouraged? Because I was really was considering the LG 77 and you gave me hope that it should be fantastic next time around.

Thanks David for all your hard work and long hours

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I think the Samsung OLED did much better with motion handling than the LG OLED, and was one area that contributed to the experts picking the Samsung.
My question is:

Since the LG and all the sets were placed under an extreme motion test, in the real world would anyone actually notice?




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By some? Probably. By the majority? Probably not.

However, I would believe that the majority would clearly see the viewing angle issues. That would be something that just about any consumer could pick up on at the store without any special content. And I think that it would probably be a lot more important to the consumer looking to invest in one of these displays.

My Sony has issues with motion when running the test discs. Do I notice it when watching actual content? Rarely, if ever. However I notice it's viewing angle problems every time I get up and move about the room.

Personally, I would place no more weight on motion issues as I would viewing angle issues. And from David's earlier post, it sounded like the viewing angle on the Samsung OLED was bad, the worst I've ever heard of. I have never seen a display that had the gray ramps change to colors off angle. To me, that's a serious issue. :dontknow:

View angle issues would not be a problem for me. My wife and I sit directly in front of the TV,

I am guessing the motion also would not be a problem but I would like to see the LG 65 or 77, put it through a couple test Blus first.
Switching between a ZT60 and a 9800, the motion is only occasionally noticed to be slightly blurrier with pans on 24p content on the latter and thus I would gladly forgo the former for infinite blacks. When football season officially starts, I'll be testing it on the 9800 to see if there is any intolerable blurriness. The new forthcoming panels should be at least as good if not better with motion.
Looking forward to your valuation


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^But then you lose that sensation of a floating window in complete darkness. ;)
Sharp Elite class-beating performance could potentially do it, but the glaring absence of any options between 65" and 120" makes it a moot point right now anyway.
In another month or two, both a 65" and 77" are arriving. I can't wait
The OLEDs, yes, and I'm anxious to have one of my own...I was referring to the lack of proposed size options for the Vizio R FALD with a higher zone count than the venerable Elite. ;)
Oh, sorry



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