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2014 Value Electronics Flat Panel Shootout

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Robert will be posting links here for the current event. The other thread will be closed to assure that any new discussion occurs in one thead.


Video Experts Along with the Attending Audience Will Evaluate the Newest Flagship HD and 4K Ultra HD Panels To Answer The Question: Which Manufacturer Makes the Best TV?

Day One, Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:00 PM EST
Day Two, Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:00 PM EST

Value Electronics 35 Popham Rd, Scarsdale, NY 10583

Direct 914-723-3344 or 800-789-5050

Want to help us determine who makes the best TV for 2014... Join us on 8/16 or 8/17 and get an exceptional professional video education and meet our panel of experts, headed by Kevin Miller, DeWayne Davis and David Mackenzie. You will also meet and hear our two Keynote special guest speakers, Joe Kane and Dr. Larry Weber.

To attend in person email Robert Zohn: [email protected] and put in the subject line, 2014 TV Shootout Request.

Can't attend in person, watch the event on our live on our dedicated Livestream channel.

The Online live feed will be broadcast in HD and will allow viewers to submit questions which will be moderated by our staff a/v techs and select questions will be read out loud for our panel of experts to answer in realtime.

TVs included in our Tenth annual TV Shootout, Saturday, August 16th and Sunday August 17th, 2014. Email us for an application to attend in person. Live webcast in HD is open to everyone worldwide.

4K 2160p models:

Samsung S9 Direct Lit LCD/LED w/local dimming 105" UN105S9W

Samsung UN78HU9000 78" Edge lit local dimming
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The center does not behave like the letterbox areas (which are prone to stubborn IR whether in the form of brightness differences from letterbox viewing or actual image retention), so the compensation mechanism seems to be a primary cause. The fact that I had the panel switched out in April for another (due to 4 dead subpixels) might be exacerbating this issue. No reset was done. This relates to current and voltage as it pertains to different areas of the screen. I found this explanation at AVF enlightening/intriguing: http://www.avforums.com/goto/post?id=21111002#post-21111002
Interesting read over there, Vinnie. But I got the impression that these were 'theories' and 'best guesses' as opposed to facts. Thoughts?

Also interesting to see the people that have had no IR. You see the same thing over at AVS. Weird.
Yes, very much so, and I still have a strong recollection of those Kuro owners who toiled with similar resets on their own panels...I'm inclined to trade up for a 9300 before I go down that rabbithole. The letterbox demarcation that occurs after one movie alone should work in my favor.
If you're trading, you might as well wait for the 65" & 77" UHDs.
Well, I meant as a warranty replacement really. A 9300 wouldn't be out of place in the MBR, which was the original plan I had for the 9800. ;) I have other designs on the great room of course.
Well folks we're starting to put up our 2014 TV Shootout videos on our YouTube page.

Check it out!

More segments of our 2014 TV Shootout are going up. Here's part 2 of Joe Kane's presentation. Joe reviles very important information about the future of 4K Ultra HD.


Dr. Larry Weber's 2014 TV Shootout presentation at our store was just uploaded. Check this one out to get a great education on the three display technologies.

I second that recommendation. Watching it is time well spent.
Here's Sony's presentation by Philip Jones. Philip's presentation is excellent!

Thanks mech! We love sponsoring our annual event and this was our best year! The presenters are among the very best experts on video and we all learned a lot from their talks.

Check out Part 6, Samsung's Director of Quality Assurance Engineering, Mike Wood's presentation at our 2014 TV Shootout.

This is the last of the manufacturers presentations. The next segment is run by Kevin Miller and he speaks on contrast ratio and demonstrates how each TV performs with test patterns and real video content.

Part 7 just went up. This is the beginning of the TV Shootout were we turn the event over to Kevin Miller and our panel of experts to help us evaluate each TV. This segment covers each TVs performance in regard to high ambient light viewing and contrast ratio. At the end of this clip David Mackenzie reveals for the first time our local zone counter and announces how many local dimming zones we counted on each display.

An education well worth the the time to watch and hear. If you enjoy these segments please give us the thumbs up and make any comments you like.

Also feel free to discuss or ask questions on his thread.

Part 9 is available to view. This is the final 2015 TV Shootout video. We may publish the awards presentation and some final follow-up remarks.

Hope everyone watches Part 9 and enjoyed this year's TV Shootout event!

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