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It is not like you don't have a nice system, Bob. There is nothing wrong with a panel. And keep that wife, it sounds like she is a good one.
 

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Projectors Technology have improved over the years and the sad things is the consumers are still ignorant about its capabilities! Prices for a 1080P projectors have dropped dramatically and becoming affordable but yet consumers still not aware of it!
Reasons being 1) consumers knowledge about projectors is low. a point in case, can`t tell a difference between a data projector and a home theatre projector and its usage!
2)Home space such as a room is required and most home in the city is not spacious and thus projection usage for home theatre is a problem.
3) Constant commercial advertising with regards to Plasma/ LCD TV and competitive pricing have induced consumers to buy them in place of projectors.
4) Beside the big screen which the projectors can offer the Audio setup is another cost factor to consider along the projection and thus not affordable to many.
5)The ideas of bulb replacement is another factor that turn consumers off in consideration of projectors.
Based on the 5 factors, consumers are still not ready for projection and it remain a secret to them.
With the progress of special effect in films such as Transformers and 2012, it is a loss not to see it in a big screen at home eating your favourite food which normally not allowed in the cinema!
 

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Thats really hitting the nail on the head, In my opinion a "home theater" is not a real home theater if it does not have a projector. Once you have one it would be very hard to go back to a flat panel display.
As the author of this thread I thought I should add my 2c. If the measure of how much one enjoys something is not being able to bear the thought of losing it then my projector ranks #1 amongst my non sencient posessions. I have a couple of vehicles that I am very fond of but they dont give me near the enjoyment my PJ does. Could I go back to a TV and still think I have a home theater? No way. Even after years of owning a PJ I still get a grin and chuckle when that screen comes down. There is a feeling of "event" that happens when I fire up the Z5 that I cant see happening with a TV. No matter what I am doing with it, be it movies games or just TV it raises the enjoyment level exponentially. I feel sad for those that can't look beyond the downsides of PJ ownership that have been mentioned here. IMHO they pale in comparison to the advantages. Sorry Bob back to the doubts.
 

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I whole heartily agree.

My wife wanted to buy me a LCD TV for Christmas this year. Years ago, before owning my projector, I would have been as giddy as a school girl at a Hannah Montana concert. In my opinion a 50" LED LCD is a step down from what I'm used to. Comparable to driving a Kia when I'm used to a Cadillac. My wife was shocked at my apathy towards the idea of a new TV.
 

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I whole heartily agree.

My wife wanted to buy me a LCD TV for Christmas this year. Years ago, before owning my projector, I would have been as giddy as a school girl at a Hannah Montana concert. In my opinion a 50" LED LCD is a step down from what I'm used to. Comparable to driving a Kia when I'm used to a Cadillac. My wife was shocked at my apathy towards the idea of a new TV.
Yeah, I love my PJ so much that I no longer check out TV's in stores. Don't get me wrong I don't put others down for having TVs and I wouldn't want some in my family getting a PJ because it is a lot of work, but for me I enjoy it all. Even the repairs.
 

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Projectors Technology have improved over the years and the sad things is the consumers are still ignorant about its capabilities! Prices for a 1080P projectors have dropped dramatically and becoming affordable but yet consumers still not aware of it!
Reasons being 1) consumers knowledge about projectors is low. a point in case, can`t tell a difference between a data projector and a home theatre projector and its usage!
2)Home space such as a room is required and most home in the city is not spacious and thus projection usage for home theatre is a problem.
3) Constant commercial advertising with regards to Plasma/ LCD TV and competitive pricing have induced consumers to buy them in place of projectors.
4) Beside the big screen which the projectors can offer the Audio setup is another cost factor to consider along the projection and thus not affordable to many.
5)The ideas of bulb replacement is another factor that turn consumers off in consideration of projectors.
Based on the 5 factors, consumers are still not ready for projection and it remain a secret to them.
With the progress of special effect in films such as Transformers and 2012, it is a loss not to see it in a big screen at home eating your favourite food which normally not allowed in the cinema!
I'd disagree that a lot of homes are too small for a projector. All you need is a white wall and light control. If you watch only at night a simple curtain could be enough. Nice thing with a projector is you can stow it away. You can't do that with a large tv. For audio all you need is a pair of good speakers and an amp.

The simplest setup would be a pair of active monitors and a PJ use your laptop to play the movies and you got it made.
 

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I'd disagree that a lot of homes are too small for a projector. All you need is a white wall and light control. If you watch only at night a simple curtain could be enough. Nice thing with a projector is you can stow it away. You can't do that with a large tv. For audio all you need is a pair of good speakers and an amp.

The simplest setup would be a pair of active monitors and a PJ use your laptop to play the movies and you got it made.
Not really true Projectors need at lest 10ft of throw distance in order to make an image large enough to be an advantage over a display.
 

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I whole heartily agree.

My wife wanted to buy me a LCD TV for Christmas this year. Years ago, before owning my projector, I would have been as giddy as a school girl at a Hannah Montana concert. In my opinion a 50" LED LCD is a step down from what I'm used to. Comparable to driving a Kia when I'm used to a Cadillac. My wife was shocked at my apathy towards the idea of a new TV.
If she was going to give you the green light for a new TV it might be time for that new PJ instead or some audio? Don't let that opportunity slip away they are few and far between at my house!
 

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I'd disagree that a lot of homes are too small for a projector. All you need is a white wall and light control. If you watch only at night a simple curtain could be enough. Nice thing with a projector is you can stow it away. You can't do that with a large tv. For audio all you need is a pair of good speakers and an amp.

The simplest setup would be a pair of active monitors and a PJ use your laptop to play the movies and you got it made.
I think you are correct for the most part. There are sooo many people that think they cant have a projector that actually can. This brings up a thought, I wonder how many people consider a PJ then go to their local brick and mortar and actually get convinced not to by their local know nothing sales reps? Once these people hear the down sides from a "professional" they then spread negative info thereby helpng keep PJ's a secret.
 

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Not really true Projectors need at lest 10ft of throw distance in order to make an image large enough to be an advantage over a display.
That depends on the projector and your definition of an advantage. As I said you can't stow away your tv in the closet like you can your projector so in some minimalist rooms it mike actually work better. I'd also suggest a projector to apartment dwellers since they are very easy to move. TV's are not as simple.
 

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I see your point, but projectors dont like being bounced around and the bulb life could defiantly be shortened by constantly setting it up and putting away. I dont know of a projector that can throw an image larger than 72" at less than 10ft.
 

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I see your point, but projectors dont like being bounced around and the bulb life could defiantly be shortened by constantly setting it up and putting away. I dont know of a projector that can throw an image larger than 72" at less than 10ft.
The Panasonic PT-AE4000U can throw that size at about 7 ft. The other mainstream LCD could handle this as well.

I've not seen many apartments with a living area smaller than 10feet either. We are speaking in most terms here and the bulb will be fine as long as your careful with it.

One could also put one of the LCD projectors on a rear shelf and use lens shift to setup the image. TVs have their advantages, but if you want a big screen projectors are a pretty good option for the technically inclined.
 

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Since we moved, I had to put my projector in a less than ideal room. It's putting up about a 60" image on a wall about 8' away. Because the image is so small, the fact I don't have light control in the room didn't matter! I can watch football on a sunday afternoon with light through the windows and it still looks great. This is a Z4 with a bulb at the end of its life (about 4k hours). I'm just putting in on the wall now (which is about to get the painted screen treatment from our other forum).

So there's no installation where a projector absolutely can't be used. You just have to be creative :)
 

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Depends. Lumens, manufacturer, smart lamp driver (cuts actual brightness of the bulb instead of dimming panels), cooling, etc.

2000 Hrs is a good middle ground. But mine is almost double that now. Some people get well more than that. Originally I planned on replacing every 18 months. I'm a little over 3 years now (I'd have to check the receipts :) ) and on the original bulb. As always, your mileage may vary.
 

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Hi guys, saw the thread light on and couldn't help but pop in.

Here in Australia the idea of PJ's being a secret society is becoming more of an urban myth these days. With the current low pricing of PJ's and some very heavy and aggresive advertising from Home Theater centres, PJ's are gaining more acceptance by the day.

Although what has really had an impact here in Australia comes from an unlikely source, our local building industry. You only have to take a trip to any one of the many 'New Display Home' villages and you'll find just about every house has a room which doubles as a games/HT room with a PJ running. It's the Wow factor for sure but it's bringing awareness of PJ's to the forefront. People may not want the house as they are only just out there tyre kicking, but they see the PJ using a blank wall and think "I can do this" and thus another convert is born. Sure a lot of them won't understand the need for calibration etc but most average Joe's are just happy with the plug and play idea and will be happy with it.

Which begs the question, is it poor marketing from the manufactures or the distributors??? From what I've seen in here there are no shortage of converts all ready to spread the message.
 

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Very interesting Gremlin. I haven't been condo shopping here in Victoria so I can't say if that is happening here or not but what a great idea for a wow factor. It seems to me that the manufacturers could do more to promote their PJ's but for some it would compete with their TV sales so I wonder if it is not persued as agressively fr that reason?
 

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Very interesting Gremlin. I haven't been condo shopping here in Victoria so I can't say if that is happening here or not but what a great idea for a wow factor. It seems to me that the manufacturers could do more to promote their PJ's but for some it would compete with their TV sales so I wonder if it is not persued as agressively fr that reason?
On a different topic Instal, have you a full HT system or are you in the process of either a] buying one or b] updating yours?
 

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I guess you would say I have a full HT system. I currently have a Sanyo z5 on a 106" screen with a Harmon Kardon AVR 525 7.1 to Klipsch RB81 speakers. I was considering updating the PJ to the Panasonic 4000U but the pricing in Canada is nothing short of highway robbery so I'm undecided.
 

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I was considering updating the PJ to the Panasonic 4000U but the pricing in Canada is nothing short of highway robbery so I'm undecided.
I agree. There are a lot of electronics that are sold in the USA for 25-50% less than they are sold in Canada. Onkyo receivers are a major one.

All you need to do to get around it though is take a vacation, if you do take regular vacations, in the USA for a week and then you can bring back $750 duty free per person. So $1500 between you and your wife and add more if you have kids. Go through an obscure border checkpoint and half the time they don't even care as long as it's not alcohol, tobacco or firearms.
 
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