[sub_crazy]

I forgot to Thank Sonnie for giving me the opportunity to order the Audyssey Pro kit as well:hail: I always appreciate all the great things he does around here. Thanks again Sonnie:clap:

 

[jmschnur]

Does it make that much difference for the surrounds?

So do you turn on mid comp then go into edits and add 3dbs to were the mid comp kicks in for the mains or the other way around? If I remember correctly the mid comp is a dip in the 2K hz range right?

Yes I did it that way. My center is a stage and it's xover is in the 2k region Seems to be a good choice for the center. mid comp seems to be a good choice for center : better voices etc.

The Vantages are much better without mid comp.

Not sure about surrounds but rear speakers seem a bit more there when called for with mid comp These are nht ceiling. Surrounds are nht dipoles

These comments are for movies and stereo music

Need to see how it works for SACDs
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[jmschnur]

Does it make that much difference for the surrounds?

So do you turn on mid comp then go into edits and add 3dbs to were the mid comp kicks in for the mains or the other way around? If I remember correctly the mid comp is a dip in the 2K hz range right?

Vantages with pro kit and jl 112 with no mid comp are now very very good with my squeeze touch

 

[jmschnur]

One thing I think Zeitgeist mentioned and I agree with was I wish they made the Left Aux input in the front panel the spot to plug in the mic instead off the input that located in the back. Luckily it is not that hard for me to get back there but if it was located in an enclosed cabinet this would be really tough.

I left the wire in place. Easier that way

 

[sub_crazy]

I left the wire in place. Easier that way

That makes sense, just unplug it from the mic pre-amp and your good to go for next time.

 

[jmschnur]

That makes sense, just unplug it from the mic pre-amp and your good to go for next time.

Exactly

 

[sub_crazy]

Yes I did it that way. My center is a stage and it's xover is in the 2k region Seems to be a good choice for the center. mid comp seems to be a good choice for center : better voices etc.

The Vantages are much better without mid comp.

Not sure about surrounds but rear speakers seem a bit more there when called for with mid comp These are nht ceiling. Surrounds are nht dipoles

These comments are for movies and stereo music

Need to see how it works for SACDs
I

I decided to make my own mid comp filter and applied it to all the speakers except the left and right mains. I had first thought to engage mid comp then make a filter to reverse it's affects for the mains but then I thought why would I want to add that much processing.

It was easy enough to make my own mid comp filter, I just placed a stationary grip at 1Khz and 3500hz then placed a grip at 2khz and lowered it 3db. The resulting filter has the same effect as the mid comp so I just added the filter to all the speakers except the mains.

I like that I can just load the the previous calibration so that I can go and make changes, you don't have to run measurements again if you are only adding filters, changing crossover points an the like. I just bring the laptop, plug in the ethernet cable. When you start the Pro software it asks for the license key again so keep it in a spot you can cut and paste quick. Once I get to the spot it asks you to check the subs I just get past that to the load measurements spot an I am ready to go.

Anybody have any useful tips or shortcuts?

One thing I had a problem with was using the USB to serial adapter on my windows 7 laptop. Luckily it was easy enough to hook up via ethernet but I am thinking maybe the USB/serial adapter is not W7 compatible?

The Pro kit is very powerful, I am really liking it:T

 

[jmschnur]

Good way to this I may follow your lead on this approach.

 

[sub_crazy]

What is everyone's thoughts on movie performance after Pro calibration?

I love what it's doing for music but it sounds a little tame for movies. I went back and added a house curve and can see it's effects via the SMS-1 but I think it's something else. I sort of remember having a little more dynamics before Pro but I am going to have to test this out some more tomorrow. I know the 886 is dynamic with movies so sometime this week I will have to compare.

 

[jmschnur]

I use dynamic EQ in my 80.2 with movies and that gives a lot of punch and surround ambience etc The setting is key.

Tv movies 10 db is fine

Blue ray I set at 0 or 5

In my two sub bass setup the low end is quite good

I use PLIIx for tv and DVDs. I use dts hd when it is on disk.

By the way Kal Rubinson just said in the Avs thread that what ever problem he found with the 80.2 and the pro kit has now been resolved. He suggests redoing the pro calibration with the latest firmware.

 

[jmschnur]

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I redid the pro calibration as suggested by Kal with the new firmware. There seems to be more punch even though the individual speaker response is the same. Note the differences in the HF in the raw data after graphs.

Perhaps a better phasing algorithm is now in place or it is a placebo effect.

Like to hear from Kal on this.

 

[sub_crazy]

Thanks for the tips jmschnur.

I use Dynamic EQ as well but when you say 10db for TV is that a setting for more or less from reference in regards to dynamic EQ? I am wondering if I have TV set at 0db right now will setting DYNEQ at 10db give me more or less? I did look through the Audyssey manual but it confused me on that part.

On the calibration I did a software update on my Onkyo 5508 right before doing the Pro cal. about a week ago. I checked last night and was told I have the latest update. I wonder if the update was only for the 80.2 or the update came out right before I updated my 5508?

Hey Kal, if your around can you comment on when the firmware update was released. I believe I updated my 5508 on 6-5-11 or possibly sooner.

 

[jmschnur]

I believe you have the latest firmware that Kal was writing about.

Audyssey recommends 10 for tv and 0 for movies with respect to dynamic EQ.

I too am not sure on what the ref means and the subsequent effects upon bass

 

[sub_crazy]

I will have to try it out.

Thanks again for the tips:T

 

[Kal Rubinson]

I redid the pro calibration as suggested by Kal with the new firmware. There seems to be more punch even though the individual speaker response is the same.

Perhaps a better phasing algorithm is now in place or it is a placebo effect.

Like to hear from Kal on this.

I have reasons to believe that the effect is real but I will not comment on why or how until the September issue. It would be great if other users offered their observations and/or measurements.

 

[Zeitgeist]

I redid the pro calibration as suggested by Kal with the new firmware. There seems to be more punch even though the individual speaker response is the same.

Perhaps a better phasing algorithm is now in place or it is a placebo effect.

Like to hear from Kal on this.

That's very interesting..

 

[raddoctor]

Hi new to this forum and am interested in the Audyssey pro calibration kit to purchase but cannot find where to get this. It seems some people here had help getting this kit and I would love to find out how. I have an Oknyo PRSC5008 running into a Sunfire TGA7401 (400w x7) with 3x PSB CW800E (L,C,R) and 4x CW260 (surrounds and rears) with 2x Velodyne Optimum 12 subs. The multiXT32 sounds great but I was hoping to extract the best sound here and think a pro calibration would help. I would love to own this myself to tweak to my hearts content. If someone could shoot me a PM on how to get this I would be so grateful!

 

[jmschnur]

Hi new to this forum and am interested in the Audyssey pro calibration kit to purchase but cannot find where to get this. It seems some people here had help getting this kit and I would love to find out how. I have an Oknyo PRSC5008 running into a Sunfire TGA7401 (400w x7) with 3x PSB CW800E (L,C,R) and 4x CW260 (surrounds and rears) with 2x Velodyne Optimum 12 subs. The multiXT32 sounds great but I was hoping to extract the best sound here and think a pro calibration would help. I would love to own this myself to tweak to my hearts content. If someone could shoot me a PM on how to get this I would be so grateful!

Go to the Audyssey web site it has a list of dealers

 

[sub_crazy]

Hi new to this forum and am interested in the Audyssey pro calibration kit to purchase but cannot find where to get this. It seems some people here had help getting this kit and I would love to find out how. I have an Oknyo PRSC5008 running into a Sunfire TGA7401 (400w x7) with 3x PSB CW800E (L,C,R) and 4x CW260 (surrounds and rears) with 2x Velodyne Optimum 12 subs. The multiXT32 sounds great but I was hoping to extract the best sound here and think a pro calibration would help. I would love to own this myself to tweak to my hearts content. If someone could shoot me a PM on how to get this I would be so grateful!

Do you have the Onkyo 5008 receiver or the 5508 pre-amp? The 5008 is not PRO capable but the 5508 is.

 

[jmschnur]

"I strongly recommend that all users of the Integra DHC-80.2, Integra DHC- 80.1, Onkyo PR-SC 5508 and PR-SC5507 install the latest firmware and run MultEQ Pro again. "
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