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Audyssey Pro Installer Kit - Demystified!

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Thanks to Sonnie, I had the opportunity to order the Audyssey MultEQ Pro Calibration Kit. I was very reluctant to order it because I wasn't sure just exactly how valuable it would be as a tool. Part of my early frustration was that it seemed like there wasn't much information about it publicly available, even though it's available for purchase to end-users. Some dealers might give you a break, and some want/demand full MSRP.

I have an Onkyo PR-SC886P preamp w/an Emotiva UPA-7. Most of my speakers are currently Polk. I had read that there were problems with the early 1.1 firmware on the Onkyo 886, so thanks to some other forum members I was able to get it successfully upgraded before attempting to calibrate.

To use the kit, you have to register on the Audyssey Installer site (http://installer.audyssey.com) with the serial number that's included with the kit. Audyssey actually includes the serial on the box the kit comes in, the mic, the preamp, and the CD. Strangely, my CD had a mismatched serial which was different from the serial that was shared by all the other components. I contacted Auddysey and the answer I received was that it was probably just mistake during kit assembly. It would have been more of a problem (as the CD contains the mic calibration), but Audyssey allows you to download mic calibration files for any serial number.

The kit actually contains a wealth of toys:
A nice zipper/handle bag to carry everything in
MultEQ Pro Application Setup CD and Setup Guide
Calibrated Preamplifier w/power adapter
Calibrated Microphone (APM-1)
Microphone Stand (A nice Samson adjustable boom stand)
Mini-XLR to RCA Adapter
Mini-XLR to XLR-Female
Mini-XLR to XLR-Male
Three Mini-XLR Cables (I believe 25')
USB to RS232 Serial Cable
10 ft. USB Cable

The next post has pictures of the kit.

I'll offer my brief thoughts:
1. Zipper bag: Cool, adds a touch of professionalism for installers
2. Calibrated preamp: Simple enough Preamp. Has an external power supply, two mini-XLR connectors and a power LED. I actually like the simplicity, because there are no knobs or anything to screw up.
3. Calibrated microphone: Small but seems well built. It's metal with a mini-XLR connector. Audyssey includes an calibration file, but unfortunately it's in a proprietary encrypted format that can only be used with the Audyssey software. Cross Spectrum Labs can calibrate it, if desired, if you want to use it for other programs.
4. Microphone stand: Nice Samson boom mic. Adjustable, seems solid.
5. The included adapters: The miniXLR-RCA is used to connect the preamp out on my 886. The other ones (I believe) are used with other AVRs and Audyssey standalone products. I like the mini-XLR to XLR-Female because that allows me to use the same cabling and preamp with my calibrated EMM-6 for other purposes.
6. Mini-XLR cables: Nice that there are 3. 1 for Mic, 1 for preamp-AVR, and 1 extra for whatever.
7. USB to RS232 cable: It works. Requires the supplied drivers on the CD, wish it was longer. I had to use a RS-232 extension cable that I had kicking around because the USB->RS232 cable is relatively short.
8. Gooseneck adapter: There is a flexible gooseneck to hold the mic. My one gripe is that I wish it was stiffer. It felt like any time I bumped anything the adapter would flex.

I have some pictures of the bag/gear which I'll upload later.

Prior to calibration, you need to purchase a license (via the site) that's model specific. You then create a key (for that license) that's specific to the device. You can always generate new keys for later calibrations, but license is always tied to that single device. After the license is purchased (but prior to creating key) you can change the license type to another model.



Basic run through:
1. Mount the mic on the stand
2. Run a mini-XLR cable from the mic to the preamp
3. Connect the preamp to the AVR. In my case, I wanted to know ahead of time how to cable it. On the Onkyo PR-SC886P you connect the pre-amp out to the LEFT input of AUX 1 on the back of the 886. My minor gripe is that the 886 has a *front* Aux2 input, so not sure why it must be plugged into the back.
4. Connect RS-232 port on 886 via the serial->USB adapter to laptop
5. Install, Launch the Multi-EQ Pro software
6. Select the brand of the device
7. Enter key from website
8. Enter customer info, etc.
9. Start measurements. I believe that you can take up to 16, if I remember correctly. After each position, it takes 3-4 minutes to transfer from the AVR to the laptop. You CAN however, save each position, and later load it which I thought was very cool.

Some screenshots:
Transferring responses from the 886 to the laptop (From measurement)


Measuring Position 3


Measuring Position 4 (Note: You can continue after barebones 3 measurements)


Calculating filters/crossovers after all measurements are complete


Detection Results w/crossovers and distance


Target Sound Options (Picking a curve)


Target Curve Designer (You can assign a different curve to every single channel!, I thought it was cool)


Target Curve Editor (Note the limit of 3db on the filters, unfortunately)


Writing the filters from the laptop to the 886:



I went through 3 measurements last night, and that's about as far as I got - so no real comments as far as improved performance.

I have to say though, that if you're looking for a step up from the cheapie mic that's included, I think that this kit is excellent! The software is pretty much idiot proof, it's easy to cable it, and it's mostly just a matter of investing the time to do measurements to make it work. Any cons that I see with the kit are really relatively trivial.

Part of why I wanted to play with it was because you can select a target curve and then tweak it. I wish that you could edit more than -/+ 3db, but I understand since the purpose of Audyssey is to get it closer to flat, rather than color the response.

Questions and comments are welcome!
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Ah... I was following the Guide instructions which tells me to connect it to the Aux input, not the PC input.
I am pretty sure that's the right input but double check on the lower left hand box as it will say there.
Yeah... the box says PC input.

I got both subs leveled to 75db, but Status shows Failed. lol I Measure again and am at 75db, but still it shows Failed. I'll move on anyway... assuming it is a technical glitch in the program.

EDIT: I clicked Back and then Forward and measured again and it now shows Passed. :huh:
I got it all done, but apparently during dinner the IP address was renewed and I had to start the program over and enter the new IP address so that I can test it On and Off. However, I now cannot get it to communicate. I can't get it to go any further after inputting the correct IP address.

Is manually turning Audyssey on and off via the 5508 menu the same as turning Pro on and off... or does it have to turned on and off with the program?
Sonnie said:
I got it all done, but apparently during dinner the IP address was renewed and I had to start the program over and enter the new IP address so that I can test it On and Off. However, I now cannot get it to communicate. I can't get it to go any further after inputting the correct IP address.

Is manually turning Audyssey on and off via the 5508 menu the same as turning Pro on and off... or does it have to turned on and off with the program?
If you transferred all to flash you should be ok. Good to save as you go along so you do not have to do a full recalibration. The last two things pages of the program are not important.

You should also print out the results so you can assess your system. The left side of each graph is what was measured prior to eq.

You might want to set your ip as static in the onkyo.

I load my saved measurements all the time to try different filters and xovers.

If you turned off the 5508 you disconnected the audyssey pro program. However if you transferred prior to that you have the pro cal in your system.
jmschnur said:
If you transferred all to flash you should be ok. Good to save as you go along so you do not have to do a full recalibration. The last two things pages of the program are not important.

You should also print out the results so you can assess your system. The left side of each graph is what was measured prior to eq.

You might want to set your ip as static in the onkyo.

I load my saved measurements all the time to try different filters and xovers.

If you turned off the 5508 you disconnected the audyssey pro program. However if you transferred prior to that you have the pro cal in your system.
You can easily check Audyssey on and off in the Onkyo.
OK... that is what I was thinking. I am still having trouble reconnecting, but maybe I can eventually figure it out.
Sonnie said:
OK... that is what I was thinking. I am still having trouble reconnecting, but maybe I can eventually figure it out.
Un plugging the onkyo and then replugging after a minute some time helps. Set the ip to static after you do this.
I am not sure about how to setup the static IP address. Networking has never been an easy thing for me.
Sonnie said:
I am not sure about how to setup the static IP address. Networking has never been an easy thing for me.
Hardware
Network
Dhcp disiable
Accept what is there write down your address

Save

Probably not a big deal if unplugging. Helped you to reconnect.

Also put your 5508 on pc before reconnecting with your computer.

Remember to save you measurements as you go along.

You can reload them later. To vary settings .

How does the cal you have done sound?
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It definitely looks better measurement wise, but not sure on sound yet. I need to do some listening of some of the same material I have been listening too previously. I will also post some graphs later on.
OK... that is what I was thinking. I am still having trouble reconnecting, but maybe I can eventually figure it out.
I sometimes have that problem and nothing but an "ALL CLEAR" on my Integra prepro will get me past it, unfortunately, even with a static IP address.
Kal Rubinson said:
I sometimes have that problem and nothing but an "ALL CLEAR" on my Integra prepro will get me past it, unfortunately, even with a static IP address.
Unplugging and going to pc in the 80.2 and a reboot of computer has worked for me the last two go arounds.

It can be a hassle.
Make sure you try turning Mid-range compensation on and off and compare which sounds better to you, it does make a difference.
I prefer it off and even add a filter in the midrange to reduce the small hump there that I was getting. The verdict is still out though... haven't done enough listening yet.
I sometimes have that problem and nothing but an "ALL CLEAR" on my Integra prepro will get me past it, unfortunately, even with a static IP address.
Unplugging and going to pc in the 80.2 and a reboot of computer has worked for me the last two go arounds.

It can be a hassle.
A power on and off worked.

Is there a way to get past the sub leveling to reload the saved measurements and add filters?
Sonnie said:
A power on and off worked.

Is there a way to get past the sub leveling to reload the saved measurements and add filters?
Just plow ahead with arrow at the bottom ignoring the leveling. Next page load your past measurements.
Sonnie said:
It definitely looks better measurement wise, but not sure on sound yet. I need to do some listening of some of the same material I have been listening too previously. I will also post some graphs later on.
So now after a while what do you of the receiver in your system?
It's growing on me. Sound wise... I still think the 4311 edges it out. I like the slightly less "in your face" sound of the 4311 over the very forward 5508. Audyssey Pro did help considerably with the harsh dialog and seems to have smoothed out the midrange.
I thought the 4311 was more laid back as well. I really did like the 4311 for music but the more forward sound of the 5508 is what hooked me for movies which is my top priority.

Are you going to put the 4311 back in to compare again?
Nah... someone else is enjoying the 4311 now.

I think the 5508 seems somewhat more dynamic... if I am thinking of the right term. It seems like it has a larger sound to it. It is only at times that it seems a bit forward, but most of the time I like how it sounds. Maybe I did not realize I was missing it with the 4311... or perhaps it just grew on me and I got too use to it.

I still haven't listened to much music to make a subjective thought on it right now.
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