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Re: AXPONA 2013 Show Report by Joe Alexander of HTS

This is absolutely awesome reporting Joe. I hope the Lone Star Audio Fest is a quarter as good as the Axpona show appeared to be. Great job! :clap:
Thanks Dale - I am planning on posting some closing thoughts on the show after I get all the system impressions finished. I did get an email yesterday that they already are planning for next year. They actually have a list of vendors who did not exhibit this year that want to sign up for next year due to the success of this one. Over 4,000 attendees.....

Wow Joe! great thread so far. I have no idea where you found the time to do all this. Its a realy amazing job, full of great information.
Thanks Tony - the sad part is that I missed most of one floor because I really wanted to spend a bit of time in each room to get a good sampling of music. I did notice a few press members who popped in, took a picture, and left. Not sure how you get an idea of what a system is really capable of in that short a time frame. Of course, I am sure they were able to make it to every room unlike me.....

Yeah... we absolutely have a star here... a natural show reporter.

Hey... we got dibs on him too, so those of you reading, don't get no ideas. :nono:
Thanks for the compliment, but one (of many - again, closing thoughts at the end - teaser! ;)) of the things I learned was that I have a LOT to learn. :bigsmile:
 

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Now I just need to take out a second mortgage on my house to afford to buy something form there :daydream: :spend:
 

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One of the most valuable lessons i learned at this fine show is that there are but a few things i could actually afford.
Maybe this one if I traded in my coin jar and that is only because I already have the computer :gulp:






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One of the most valuable lessons i learned at this fine show is that there are but a few things i could actually afford.
Right there with you sir! Funny story - I am going to be doing a bit more reporting from other events. When my wife and I talked about it, her biggest concern was that I was going to come back wanting $50,000 speakers. :bigsmile:
 

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Those MBL 101 E MKIIs are the most odd looking speakers Ive seen in a long time. Your correct about them making you feel like you are in some sort of Sci Fi movie. I immediately thought of "Dr Who" LOL
 

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Will it rival some of the other setups that were on display - probably not, but it gets you close at about one-tenth the price. A great system for those of us working on a budget!

The MSRP of the P-3000R pre-amp is $1,699 with the M-5000R amp coming in at $2,499 and the C-7000R CD player listing at $1,499. They were using the Focal 918s for speakers.

Agreed totally, this thought went through my head many times as I wandered the halls and stepped into the rooms. Who are the prospective buyers for most of this gear ? Certainly not I nor my companion. This room was a delightful change. The music hall room below also showed me how good sounds can be made on a budget. I loved the new MH turntable for only $1000 with cartridge, this room sounded very good.

 

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Agreed totally, this thought went through my head many times as I wandered the halls and stepped into the rooms. Who are the prospective buyers for most of this gear ? Certainly not I nor my companion. This room was a delightful change. The music hall room below also showed me how good sounds can be made on a budget. I loved the new MH turntable for only $1000 with cartridge, this room sounded very good.

One of the rooms I did not make it to.... :(
 

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Thanks so much for the reporting, really nice job of covering the event. Acutally, I must agree this is the best I have seen. Look forward to you being at more shows!
 

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Early Saturday afternoon brought me to Soundfield Audio's room.

This was the debut of the new Monitor 2 developed by AJ, the owner of Soundfield Audio. Unfortunately, no specs were available, but the MSRP is $1,800. I loved the finish of the cabinet - a hardwood front with gloss black for the rest of the cabinet looked very polished.

When I was done, I actually wrote "these sounds just as good as my floorstanders" in my notes - a very impressive monitor.
I surely hope they sound good, because they aren't going anywhere on looks alone. Those are some really goofy, disproportionate looking speakers. :yikes:
 

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The SubMersive F2s use dual opposed 15" sealed woofers. They have a DSP-controlled 2400W amp with a stated FR of 15/19 Hz - 200 Hz selectable with typical in-room extension to 8-14 Hz. The SubMersive HPs also use dual opposed 15" sealed woofers and have a DSP-controlled 2400W amp with a stated FR of 15/19 Hz - 200 Hz selectable with typical in-room extension to 8-14 Hz.
Just one minor correction with regards to Mark's subwoofers; the regular SubMersive's and the HP's are dual opposed, but the F2's have all their drivers facing forward.
 

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Hi Joe,

Thank you very much for the kind comments and great reporting of the show overall. It worked out great that you found your way to the room while many were still downstairs after the fire alarm. Many times the room was packed and with the very tough room acoustics and small dimensions, the sound quality and surround effects fell off quickly outside of the center seating.


The SubMersive F2s use dual opposed 15" sealed woofers. They have a DSP-controlled 2400W amp with a stated FR of 15/19 Hz - 200 Hz selectable with typical in-room extension to 8-14 Hz. The SubMersive HPs also use dual opposed 15" sealed woofers and have a DSP-controlled 2400W amp with a stated FR of 15/19 Hz - 200 Hz selectable with typical in-room extension to 8-14 Hz.
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This was my best experience of the day for Saturday - and in my top 3 for all weekend. Great job!
Just one minor correction with regards to Mark's subwoofers; the regular SubMersive's and the HP's are dual opposed, but the F2's have all their drivers facing forward.
The correction should be to me! :whistling:
Joe did a fine job of copying my error on the spec sheet which was handed out where I had copied some info from the SubMersive HP and missed that bit of editing. Good catch! :doh:
 

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The correction should be to me! :whistling:
Joe did a fine job of copying my error on the spec sheet which was handed out where I had copied some info from the SubMersive HP and missed that bit of editing. Good catch! :doh:
Doh! Perhaps I should have used my eyes and looked more closely at the picture I took.... :R

Thanks for catching my error gentlemen!

Changed it in the post...
 

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The correction should be to me! :whistling:

Joe did a fine job of copying my error on the spec sheet which was handed out where I had copied some info from the SubMersive HP and missed that bit of editing. Good catch! :doh:
I never would have guessed that - your one of the few people who are more of a perfectionist then I am! :D OK Joe, you're off the hook it seems. :neener:

See you at Andrews next month my friend...
 

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I surely hope they sound good, because they aren't going anywhere on looks alone. Those are some really goofy, disproportionate looking speakers. :yikes:
To be honest Jim, several speakers I saw were using the C shaped cabinet design - this just happened to be the only monitor that did so. It really was not bad IMO.

I never would have guessed that - your one of the few people who are more of a perfectionist then I am! :D OK Joe, you're off the hook it seems. :neener:

See you at Andrews next month my friend...
No I am not - I should have actually "read" what I was typing. ;)
 

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Early Saturday afternoon brought me to Soundfield Audio's room.


This was the debut of the new Monitor 2 developed by AJ, the owner of Soundfield Audio. Unfortunately, no specs were available, but the MSRP is $1,800. I loved the finish of the cabinet - a hardwood front with gloss black for the rest of the cabinet looked very polished.

As for the sound, when I go to listen to a monitor, I like to hear one that "sounds bigger" than it is. And, AJ's Monitor 2 delivers this in spades. They imaged so well - eyes open or closed, I really could not localize the speakers at all. Instrumental clarity was off the charts - you could hear every instrument. I particularly noticed the quality of the horns - not overpowering in the slightest. And, this was another monitor that I would have sworn was crossed to a sub - tight, clean bass. If I had to guess, I would lay bets on clean down to around 30-35 Hz - in a monitor! And, lest I forget, the ability to handle the range of female vocals was excellent as well.

When I was done, I actually wrote "these sounds just as good as my floorstanders" in my notes - a very impressive monitor.
Hi Joe,

Thanks for stopping by, it was nice to meet you. If I recall, you actually stuck around for a couple tracks. Hopefully none too boring.
Some of the specs are on my site on the "Coming Soon" page, but I will update asap. The price is "per pair". Been pretty hectic since flying back on Monday.
The system comprised of my laptop - 16/44k WAV > Nuforce uDAC-2 > Power Modules (Belles) Soloist 1 integrated amp. MG Audio Design cabling used throughout.
Maybe I'll see you next year as well.

cheers,

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Hi Joe,

Thanks for stopping by, it was nice to meet you. If I recall, you actually stuck around for a couple tracks. Hopefully none too boring.
Some of the specs are on my site on the "Coming Soon" page, but I will update asap. Been pretty hectic since flying back on Monday.
The system comprised of my laptop - 16/44k WAV > Nuforce uDAC-2 > Power Modules (Belles) IA-01 integrated amp. MG Audio Design cabling used throughout.
Maybe I'll see you next year as well.

cheers,

AJ
It was great to meet you as well AJ! I did stick around for a bit - and it was not boring at all! That is a great speaker you have on your hands - and thanks for posting the system.

I will definitely be there - so happy to get a show on this scale in our area.
 

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To be honest Jim, several speakers I saw were using the C shaped cabinet design - this just happened to be the only monitor that did so. It really was not bad IMO.
It wasn't really the C shape of the cabinet, per se - there are a lot of companies now that use a similar curvature. For me it was how deep the cabinet was, along with how tall and skinny the front looked, which make it appear unbalanced. That, and the gargantuan ribbon driver dominating the faceplate add up to a look that I don't find terribly appealing. It seems as though you liked how they sounded though, which is always a good thing.


No I am not - I should have actually "read" what I was typing. ;)
Nah. With all you've written, photographed and posted it's simply not possible to be 100% accurate. That would be asking too much from anyone. I blame Mark. :heehee:
 

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It wasn't really the C shape of the cabinet, per se - there are a lot of companies now that use a similar curvature. For me it was how deep the cabinet was, along with how tall and skinny the front looked, which make it appear unbalanced. That, and the gargantuan ribbon driver dominating the faceplate add up to a look that I don't find terribly appealing. It seems as though you liked how they sounded though, which is always a good thing.:
I wonder if the depth of the cabinet is what allows them to dig that deep. I am speaker design illiterate, but no kidding aside, there were several towers that were not doing as well in the low end as this guy was.
 

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You know I do wonder why it seems that quite a few of these companies brought what seems to be their most expensive products to the show. I can only imagine that the majority of the people visiting are not in the market for these expensive systems, although I could be mistaken, since I was not there.

Don't get me wrong, I would like to see the really nice products and give it all a listen myself just to compare the 10's and 100's of thousand dollar systems with my wimpy setup at home... and to simply see the stuff... so much of it is so nice to merely look at in person. HOWEVER, why not bring with you a reasonably priced system that might be more affordable and that might be more in line with what the majority of folks will buy. Then again, I suppose those products might get overshadowed by the more expensive gear. I suppose too that if they sold just one of those higher end systems, it would be the equivalent of selling several of the lesser expensive systems.
 

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I wonder if the depth of the cabinet is what allows them to dig that deep. I am speaker design illiterate, but no kidding aside, there were several towers that were not doing as well in the low end as this guy was.
Some companies are of the "form follows function" mindset, others are the exact opposite. Based upon that speakers appearance I would assume those folks aren't the latter.

More than likely you're correct regarding the cabinets internal volume, and hence it's overall size; rich, full bodied sound very often does require cabinets of substantial proportions, so it's quite possible that the end result, sound wise, dictated a lot of the esthetics (including the slim width).
 
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