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Second post regarding Samsung led. I have been looking at the Samsung 55" 6300 model. It's about $1999 now. Probably drop another few hundred by thanksgiving. Great tv. Just wondering, for an equivalent model, is there anything out there a bit cheaper.

Also, I don't see much advertised about the 60" model of the 6300 series?

At a viewing distance of 12-13 feet, what do you think?
 

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The imaging scientists and engineers who designed the HDTV system conducted extensive human perceptual factors research to determine the optimum viewing angle for a 1920 x 1080, 1.78:1 aspect ratio screen. Their recommendations are based upon average human visual acuity, and at what distance a certain pixel size starts to become detectable to the viewer. The goal is a smooth, sharp, natural looking image without revealing the component parts of the display. That viewing distance is approximately 1.5 x the diagonal measurement of the screen. This works out to a 30 degree viewing angle. Such a distance is a good starting point for determining what works for any individual viewer, using a particular display technology.

There are differing recommendations quoted by some sources. Frequently, they inappropriately base their opinions on film projection technology. Video is not film and digital video displays cannot be equated to projected film imaging characteristics.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
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"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"
 

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Alan's telling you that you should either scoot closer, get abigger TV, or not worrying so much about picture quality because at that distance, it will be hard to see. And if he's not, I am. If your getting into LED because of the energy savings or slim design, I say go for it. Otherwise, get a less expensive LCD or Plasma, and save your money for your cable bill.
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1. For all intents and purposes, there is no such thing as a "LED" TV. It is a LED driven LCD TV.
2. Those thin 'Edge Lit' sets suffer from hot spotting or the 'flashlight effect'. They have lower power consumption than full backllit sets, but at a viewing cost.
 

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So, it sounds like you are saying it may be preferable, and probably at "less" cost to go with a "full" back-lit LG. I may have to anyway for matte finish?

in that case:
Super confused between what a LG5400 offers and I think the LH90. The LH90 is 240hz, but I think is actually "older" than the 5400????
 

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As said before, LEDs are great for a slim form factor and energy savings. Full backlit-array LCDs (the kind with the LED lights across the entire screen, not just the edges) also offer higher contrast ratios at the expense of panel thickness and the potential for a lit halo effect around bright images on dark backgrounds.

In other words, unless those things are important to you, you could buy a bigger traditional LCD or Plasma.
 

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LEDs are great for a slim form factor and energy savings.
You can't put "LED's" into one broad category. The "slim form factor" TV's are only the Edge Lit sets. They give you a 'greener' solution, but this comes at another expense other than the purchase price as I stated.

I have read it over and over in many reviews and forums regarding this hot spotting which I thought was somewhat exaggerated, along the the 'soap opera' effect of the faster refresh rate (which is another, separate problem), until I was in a friends home and saw it myself the second the set was turned on with a black background, I was surprised it was that bad.
the potential for a lit halo effect around bright images on dark backgrounds.
This is a problem with any of the LED back lit sets with "local dimming". Where areas of the LED's are turned off to increase the contrast ratio and give you 'blacker blacks' at this expense (halos).
There is no free ride. Most of this 'stuff' is marketing. :devil:

I'm not 'bashing' LCD's TV's , (I own a 32" for out bedroom), but I would bet 80-90% of the public has no idea these 'problems' exist. They can't see past the 'artsy fartsy' look of hanging a TV on a wall. :rolleyes:
240hz is a gimmick IMO.
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Eugovector is correct. At a viewing distance of 12 to 13 feet, you would need a screen approximately eight feet diagonal to enjoy all the detail in a 1080p image. As the screen size gets smaller, less detail will be visible at that distance. I don't recommend any consumer LCD over a plasma unless for a very specific reason that is of higher priority than image fidelity. Consumer LCDs have certain advantages over plasmas, but not when it comes to delivering the best overall picture quality.

Videobruce is also correct. There are LED displays available, but they are extremely bright, very large, and super expensive at HD resolutions. You may have seen them used as outdoor daylight viewable electronic signs, sporting event scoreboards, "jumbo" video displays, etc.
 

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Time for me to learn something...
Marshall, are you saying you think all of Samsung's offerings this year are edge-lit?
 

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Hello,

My contractor who's doing the audio/video wiring in our new family room is recommending the Samsung 8500 series LED TV mentioned above. I confess that I have only begun to consider which TV, so I'm not completely knowlegable, and am open to any decent option (LED, LCD, Plasma) for a family room 5.1 set up that will be our main viewing location. Is the Samsung 8500 backlit or edgelit? What LED options are the most recommended?

Thanks, Mike
 

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Someone really needs to change the misleading title of this thread. Just because Samsung is deceptive, doesn't mean it should extend here. These are still LCD TV's.

After all, who else will educate the unsuspecting other than in forums as this?
 
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