[Lordoftherings]

Agreed with your above post.

* Now, if I can only get the money to spend on that Arcam FMJ AVR600. :bigsmile:

 

[Sam Ash]

First and foremost, I'd like to express my sincere appreciation for the wonderful contribution that each and everyone of you have made. It's an honor to be a member of this forum because I have noticed that people here are authentic and willing to provide useful help.

To be honest, I have still not purchased the Oppo even though I believe it is an excellent player. The reason for this is that as a first priority I have decided to invest in a good 7.1 amp (Onkyo TX-NR906) which apparently happens to have an excellent up-scaling chip. My main objective is to be able to upscale my SD DVD playback effectively.

I don't really need the speed and will never invest in SACD or DVDA discs and so it does not make sense for me to invest in an Oppo player.

Bob mentioned the fact that the Panny DMP-BD60 has direct source ability - that is exactly what I want !

Bob, are you sure that the Panny DMP-DB60 has a direct source function ? - I need a firm confirmation on this as I remember I did read something in the past that mentioned the fact that the Panny player does not provide true source direct because the player (by default) does tamper with the signal before it is released. Please clarify this for me, I will really appreciate it.

If the Panny DMP-DB60 is capable of Source Direct then that really solves my problem !!!

Thanks again for all the wonderful help.

 

[Sam Ash]

Agreed with your above post.

* Now, if I can only get the money to spend on that Arcam FMJ AVR600. :bigsmile:

Hi Bob,

It was quite interesting to read all the rave reviews about the FMJ AVR600, I remember reading one review that mentioned that this particular amp is so good that it comes to reference standards and sounds as good as separates with both movies and music.

However, I later came to understand that the FMJ AVR600 has some serious problems which Arcam has been tying to fix. Have a look at this link:-

http://www.avforums.com/forums/arcam-owners-forum/1009712-avr600-firmware-thread-new-post.html

The link will probably take you to the middle of a thread but you can track back and go through it. I realise the fact that you may already know about it but I thought of contributing nevertheless.

Cheers

 

[Jungle Jack]

Hello,
The BD60 does not have Source Direct. I would look at the Pioneer BDP-320 or the OPPO BDP-83.
Also, many Sony's offer Source Direct.

However, the majority of BDP's do not offer Source Direct to where your AVR can handle the video processing,
Cheers,
JJ

 

[tonyvdb]

Hello,
The BD60 does not have Source Direct.

The Panasonic BD80 dose have it My manual stats it clearly that on their BD80 you can bypass most of the internal processing when listening to audio cds.

 

[Jungle Jack]

Hello,
Tony, I realize it does do a bypass, but it does not have a function where for DVD's it automatically outputs 480i and the native resolution of BD. I researched this matter for sometime prior to posting that as I thought it offered it.
Here is a post from Chris Boylan of Big Picture Big Sound

"There is no "source direct" function on the Panasonic players so there is no one setting to let your TV do the de-interlacing and upconverting.

For Blu-rays, you can set the BD60 or BD80 to 1080i resolution and enable 24p output. This will send 1080i/60 discs to your TV at 1080i/60 and will send 1080p discs to your TV at 1080p/24. This will allow your TV to do the HD de-interlacing on those few 1080i/60 blu-ray titles, if you think it does a better job than the player.

For DVDs, you could use the component outputs. If HDMI and component are both active, then component automatically gets 480i output. Then select the component input on your TV for watching DVDs. The only drawback to this is that Panasonic's video processing engine does the de-interlacing on DVDs first, before any other processing, and this is actually not defeatable. When you use the 480i component video output, you are actually getting a de-interlaced/re-interlaced video signal. Panasonic says this process is transparent. I haven't really tested that to see whether it is.

Some Pioneer players have a source direct feature that passes the signal to a display or processor in its native resolution. But the Pioneer players a.) are really slow; b.) offer no streaming capabilities and c.) are more expensive than the Panasonics.

The upconversion and de-interlacing on the Panasonic players is quite good so with 1080p HDMI output and 24 FPS mode enabled on the player for DVDs, I think you'll get great results on your TV. "
Cheers,
JJ

 

[tonyvdb]

Ok, that makes sense.

 

[Jungle Jack]

Hello,
With the excellent performance of the Panasonic on DVD's and BD, this really is not an issue. Panasonic does not offer Source Direct on any of their BDP's. Here is a review of the BD80:http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Panasonic_DMP-BD80_Blu-ray_Disc_Player.shtml

While I do use Source Direct because I prefer Reon over the Pioneer DVD processing, with the recent firmware updates, I am actually switching back to 1080p output as the general consensus is that it outperforms the Reon.
Cheers,
JJ

 

[Sam Ash]

Hello,
The BD60 does not have Source Direct. I would look at the Pioneer BDP-320 or the OPPO BDP-83.
Also, many Sony's offer Source Direct.

However, the majority of BDP's do not offer Source Direct to where your AVR can handle the video processing,
Cheers,
JJ

Thanks Jack, my whole objective is to locate a reasonably priced BDP that offers source direct. Something not as expensive as the Oppo BDP-83 but rather an alternative.

Is the Pioneer BDP-320 as expensive as the Oppo BDP-83 ?

What is the most reasonably priced Sony that offers true Source Direct ?

I would have bought the Panasonic BD60 or even the BD35 if they ofered Source Direct.

Cheers