Home Theater Forum and Systems banner
1 - 7 of 34 Posts

· Premium Member
Joined
·
69 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I'm new to this site, and am still learning my way around as to how to view different post and threads. So please be patient with me. That being said, I've looked around trying to find specific info on the effectiveness of using deferent power cables. What started this interest, is a friend of mine and I were talking the other day, as I was telling him I just bought a Panamax M5100 Power Conditioner for my main Home Theatre. He immediately told me that if I really wanted to notice a significant difference as to performance, he suggested I try changing out my power cables. Such as the power cable that came with my Denon 4308ci for instance. He told me to check out PS Audio and that he owned several of these cables, and he couldn't believe the difference it made in his system. He said he'd sell them to me for cheap if I wanted them, as he had to sell one of his HT systems. It took me long enough to buy in to the whole power conditioner concept, as some sware by them. And now, it's about the actual power cables being of interest. If I missed a thread that covers this info, I apologize. But, I'd really like to know what you guys/gals think about changing out the cables that came with my Denon receiver and Denon Blu Ray player (and anything else if it's really a significant advantage). Any feedback would be much appreciated.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
69 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Thanks for the link Sonnie. For my home theatre needs, I already have a pretty nice system. And, if my buddy is willing to let me demo several of his hi-end cables (which won't cost me a dime), then I guess I'll have to determine this for myself. As to whether it's snake oil or not, it's obviously been a long going debate as to whether it's true or false. As for putting money in to speakers, I'd do this long before I'd put that same money into cables. I think I've got my speakers finally covered, as I've replaced my speakers (and receiver) many times over. For Home Theatre (which is what I use my system for 95% of the time) I've found that my current set up sounds very good for my size room. It's that "little extra tweak" we home theatre enthusiast continue to pursue to better our systems performance. It's half the fun!
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
69 Posts
Discussion Starter · #23 ·
Hopefully, you've replaced the fifty feet of standard electrical cable back to your service panel with cable offering the same characteristics.

brucek
I think you make a very valid point here brucek, and honestly I've never really thought about the quality of power coming into my theatre from outside (if this is what you're referring too). Now for the beginner question regarding this very concern, as I truely have "0" experience in this arena :scratch:. How can I find out what the quality of clean/dirty power (for a better lack of words) is, coming in to my home? Whether this weighs in on the issue, I do live right in front of the main power station (surrounded with 10' concrete walls) with the transponder also right behind my home.
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
69 Posts
Discussion Starter · #28 ·
Sonnie,
We began our test today (session 1 for a reference).
Well, just when I was nearly convinced that power cables don't make a difference, my friend finally made his way over another friend of mine's house today with 3 different power cables. My friends system we tested them on has a Denon avr-3805, and the SVS SBS-01 speaker system. Nothing real fancy here, but solid equiptment for this basic test.
We ran the system at reference levels (00 master volume on the Denon). We changed out the power cables on the receiver and the PB10-NSD Sub. We didn't use any measuring tools other than our own ears for this session. All we used for a test DVD for todays beginning session (as I wasn't going to continue these sessions unless we all agreed, especially me since I'm the one possibly in the market for these cables, came to a definate conclusion as to whether we/I heard a significant difference or not) was the beginning scene of Star Wars 3 "Revenge of the Sith", Chapter 3, for about the first two minutes. The bass is very intense in this opening scene, as is the whole battle scene for that matter utilizing all speakers.
We listened/watched this scene 4 times with the stock cables, then with the cables he brought with him (PS Audio Plus 8 guage 2 meter on the receiver, and a "Magic" PC ran from the sub directly to the wall outlet). I have to say everyone, I DID certainly notice a difference. And, I didn't have to listen carefully either. It was overly apparent from the first sound. First, when we played this scene at reference levels, the Sub was right on the edge of bottoming out, or so it seemed,(this was with the X-over set to 80Hz on the Denon with the volume set to -5, and the master volume on the back of the sub turned up about 30%, or about the 4:00 position) as this scene has some serious LFE. Everything else sounded great. And, that little SBS-01 system really surprised me, but thats for another thread.
We then changed out the cables. Ok guys, I'm just telling you what we heard, so keep the gloves off.
First, the bass was noticeably more tame, and not so out of control as it was without the cable change, and was able to sustain the LFE without any sign of heavy stress like before. Also, the higher frequencies seemed to be not so in your face like before, and as the ships flew across the sound stage, it was more seemless, and less directional than before. So, I realize some may come back and disagree with me, but I really was trying to prove my point too, that being that this is nonsense. How can a PC have an audible difference and effect the sound characteristics? Well.... I don't know how this phenomenon works. But without doubt, I certainly noticed a difference grinning ear to ear in disbelief.
Next, for our second session, we're going to test these same cables on my system, which I already know it's sound charitaristics well with as many movies as I've watched. So stay tuned...... This second session will be utilizing these same power cords on my Denon 4308ci, Denon dvd-3800bdci & SVS PB12/Plus2. Thanks for all the great input from everybody. Kevin
 

· Premium Member
Joined
·
69 Posts
Discussion Starter · #33 ·
Hey Guys and Gals!
I apologize for the time lapse from our last post from "Session one", as honestly I've been bogged down at work and other activities that have kept us from making progress:wits-end:. I hope to have Session 2 completed by the end of September.
So please bare with us, and I'll report back as soon as we've had some time to continue. Thanks again for your patience.:bigsmile:
 
1 - 7 of 34 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top